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bloodywind 发表于 2011-4-23 19:30 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式

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本帖最后由 潜艇4809 于 2013-8-20 22:48 编辑

http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=6227097

Indonesia Seeks Offset Barter Over T-50 Jet Buy

SEOUL - Indonesia wants South Korea to buy four more of its locally built CN-235 maritime patrol aircraft in an offset barter deal over Indonesia's purchase of 16 T-50 trainer jets, according to government and industry sources here.

On April 12, the Seoul government announced that it won exclusive rights to negotiate the sale of the T-50 Golden Eagle, co-developed by Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) and Lockheed Martin of the United States, to Indonesia. The T-50 had competed with Russia's Yak-130 and the Czech-built L-159B.

Jakarta notified Seoul of a plan to "treat KAI as the de facto preferred bidder" for its advanced trainer acquisition contest, according to a spokesperson for South Korea's presidential office Blue House.

"Both governments agreed in principle to sign a memorandum of understanding on the sale of the T-50 within the next nine months," he said.

In a news conference at the Ministry of National Defense, KAI Chief Executive Officer Kim Hong-kyung said the T-50 would be sold "much cheaper" than its original price tag of $20 million to $25 million.

"We asked our suppliers to lower the costs of manufacturing T-50 spare parts, and based on those efforts, we offered a per-unit price far lower than standard price," Kim said. He hinted that the total value of the trainer deal would be lower than the estimated $400 million, which is based on a per-unit price tag of $25 million.

"The final value of the trainer deal could be decided after negotiations," said Kim, expressing hope to conclude a final agreement within two months.

"Through negotiations, both sides will discuss a wide range of issues, such as the price, delivery timing, ground-based training equipment and systems, integrated logistics support and replacement parts," Kim noted.

Once a final contract is signed, the first delivery of T-50s will be made in 2013, he added.

The T-50 was defeated in competitions in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) and Singapore, where both countries selected Italy's M-346 trainer.

The single-engine T-50 features digital flight controls and a modern, ground-based training system. It is designed to have the maneuverability, endurance and systems to prepare pilots to fly next-generation fighters, such as the Eurofighter Typhoon, the F-22 Raptor, the Rafale and the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter. The jet has a top speed of Mach 1.4 and an operational range of 1,851 kilometers.

Other potential customers include the United States, Israel, Greece and Poland.

According to industry sources, Jakarta requested that Seoul purchase four CN-235 aircraft built by PT Dirgantara Indonesia (PT DI) in return for buying T-50s. The per-unit price of the CN-235 is known to be around $25 million. Seoul purchased four of the aircraft in 2008.

Indonesia also asked South Korea to write off $10 million in penalties over the former's delayed delivery of CN-235 planes under the 2008 deal that was worth $100 million. The first batch of two of the four planes had been scheduled to be delivered to the Korea Coast Guard in December and the remainder in April.

PT DI sent a document to the Coast Guard recently, saying delivery would be delayed for production problems, Coast Guard spokesman Koh Jae-young said.

In addition, Indonesia demands South Korea pay for the costs of integrated logistics support, according to sources.

"Indonesia is expected to offer to locally produce some of the 16 T-50s to be ordered, should a contract be signed," a source said. "How many aircraft Indonesia wants to produce locally could be a contentious issue during negotiations."

Seoul and Jakarta had a similar barter trade deal in 2001 when South Korea bought eight CN-235 transport planes in return for selling 12 KT-1 Woongbi basic trainers.

The CN-235 is a medium-range twin-turboprop airplane, jointly developed by Spain's CASA and PT DI, formerly known as IPTN. The plane is used for VIP transport, maritime patrols, airlifts and troop carrying.

South Korea has 20 CN-235s, 12 built in Spain and eight in Indonesia.

In a summit last December, President Lee Myung-bak and his Indonesian counterpart, Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, agreed to jointly manufacture tanks, submarines and fighter jets.
歼7L 发表于 2011-4-23 19:46 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 歼7L 于 2011-4-24 01:04 编辑

CN235

                               
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景云都尉 发表于 2011-4-23 20:14 | 显示全部楼层
心比天高命比纸薄。南韩其实也挺不容易的。
东方木 发表于 2011-4-23 20:24 | 显示全部楼层
据楼主文,南韩原来有20架CN-235 ?
 楼主| bloodywind 发表于 2011-4-23 20:35 | 显示全部楼层
东方木 发表于 2011-4-23 20:24
据楼主文,南韩原来有20架CN-235 ?

文章是这么说的,12架来自西班牙,8架来自印尼
iffa 发表于 2011-4-23 21:57 | 显示全部楼层
CN-225印尼还在生产的啊?
绿林好汉 发表于 2011-4-24 11:00 | 显示全部楼层
物物交换?
捉生将 发表于 2011-4-25 19:24 | 显示全部楼层
易货贸易?
佐东贤 发表于 2011-4-25 19:47 | 显示全部楼层
棒子想出口。
pylwq 发表于 2011-4-26 09:36 | 显示全部楼层
T-50想出口,没那么容易!
横空出世 发表于 2011-4-26 17:36 | 显示全部楼层
pylwq 发表于 2011-4-26 09:36
T-50想出口,没那么容易!

确实,用了美国的东西,想向印尼出口,不是那么简单的
潜艇4809 发表于 2013-8-20 22:45 | 显示全部楼层
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FA50今日在韩国下线了,目标用户是菲俑
潜艇4809 发表于 2013-8-20 22:47 | 显示全部楼层

                               
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langge945 发表于 2013-8-20 23:02 | 显示全部楼层
这么看 棒子的T50越来越走像IDF路线。

点评

太像了,典型的短腿飞机。  发表于 2013-8-20 23:39
悍马骑士 发表于 2013-8-28 21:31 | 显示全部楼层
【快讯】韩国空军T-50战斗机光州坠毁 2名飞行员遇难身亡

韩空军战机坠毁致2死 目击者称像耍杂技(图)

据韩国《中央日报》8月28日报道,当地时间8月28日下午1时许,韩国空军一架T-50战斗机在韩国光州坠毁,2名飞行员遇难身亡。据报道,这架T-50战斗机坠毁前正在执行飞行训练。

  据一名目击者表示:“这架飞机坠毁前的飞行特别像是在表演杂技,突然冒出一阵黑烟,然后,迅速坠落地面。”韩国军方目前还在进行调查,以便确定直升机坠毁的原因。(泰和)

http://mil.huanqiu.com/world/2013-08/4296815.html
韩空军战机坠毁致2死 目击者称像耍杂技(图).jpg
韩国空军一架T-50战斗机在韩国光州坠毁。(韩网截图)

klonoa1121 发表于 2015-10-27 17:57 | 显示全部楼层
http://chinese.donga.com/gb/srv/service.php3?biid=2015102691288
《社论》KFA之后T-50也出现异常信号,对美外交还在正常进行吗?
OCTOBER 26, 2015 07:12        

  
韩国航空宇宙产业(KAI)向乌兹别克斯坦出售国产超音速高级训练机T-50(4亿美元或4500亿韩元的规模)的计划,因为美国政府的反对,事实上已成泡影。在美国洛克希德-马丁公司的技术支援下开发完成的T-50,由于航电装备、引擎等大部分核心技术是美国产,别说是出口,就算是在外国展出,也要得到美国政府的批准。T-50向印度尼西亚、伊拉克、菲律宾、泰国等国出口时,都获得了美国的批准。

乌兹别克斯坦与俄罗斯缔结了战略伙伴关系,而且和中国都是上海合作组织的成员国,正在构建地区安保和经济合作关系。俄罗斯正在加强对叙利亚的军事介入和对中亚地区的军事主导权。中国试图加强在南中国海的海上支配权,正在与美国尖锐对立。T-50的出口并不是单纯的韩美间合同问题,同时也是国际政治问题。美国在今年2月发表的国家安保战略报告书(NSS)中表示,“要在海洋安保领土争议中促使中国遵守国际准则和规范”,并向乌克兰提供军事援助,把俄罗斯当作封锁和制裁的对象。

在韩国型战斗机开发计划(KF-X)中,美国反对向韩国转让制造F-35的洛克希德-马丁公司所拥有的四项核心技术,也难以看成是纯粹是担心技术流失的原因。政府在2014年3月决定把F-35作为下一代战斗机(FX)采购计划的优先协商对象时,还声称技术转让不成问题。但是,从今年4月起,美国先后三次向韩国通报不可能转让技术,这不能看成是例行惯事。在韩国国民中间,可能会对美国产生“卖完武器,难道想拒绝技术支援”的不满。

据说,朴槿惠总统已经下了指示,要求防卫事业厅长张明镇(音译、下同)、国防科学研究所所长郑洪龙等与KX计划有关的部门负责人当面向她报告。在2014年决定购买的机种时任国防部长官、现任总统国家安保室长的金宽镇,23日在国会运营委员会的国政监查中答辩时称:“依靠自有技术,十年内能完成开发。”尽管如此,金宽镇室长也不能免除对那段混乱状况应负的责任。朴槿惠总统应立即彻底查清真相,制订对策。朴总统有必要尽早清理那些对来自华盛顿的信号藏着掖着、只顾着保全自己位子的外交安保负责人们。

klonoa1121 发表于 2015-11-11 11:55 | 显示全部楼层
KFX電子系統包括雷達在內測試情況
http://news.joins.com/article/19027839
[르포] 보안 최고등급 국방과학연구소엔 ‘KF-X’ 레이더가…   
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moper3 发表于 2015-12-20 12:43 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 moper3 于 2015-12-20 13:12 编辑

微博消息
12月20日,印尼一架T-50I在苏西托空军基地失事
http://video.weibo.com/show?fid=1034:3c0568cec29a33993621723488f48a04
暗夜流星 发表于 2015-12-20 13:39 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 暗夜流星 于 2015-12-20 13:47 编辑
moper3 发表于 2015-12-20 12:43
微博消息
12月20日,印尼一架T-50I在苏西托空军基地失事

像是进入尾旋,改出时机过晚。
没看到跳伞,似乎是机毁人亡。
moper3 发表于 2015-12-20 16:09 | 显示全部楼层
暗夜流星 发表于 2015-12-20 13:39
像是进入尾旋,改出时机过晚。
没看到跳伞,似乎是机毁人亡。

还有一个GIF,从时间跨度上看,要比这个视频长一些。确实像是没跳伞。
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