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[战略战术导弹] DF-41战略导弹

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漆室葵忧 发表于 2017-11-21 09:17 | 显示全部楼层
lvshoutao 发表于 2017-11-20 12:28
我也觉得41一级推力没长征11大,假设41重量50吨左右按推重比2算一级推力100吨也够了

一级推力不一定会比长征11小,但发射重量可能比长征11小一些,弹道导弹采用高推重比设计有利于缩短上升时间,提高生存率。
lvshoutao 发表于 2017-11-21 10:14 来自航空航天港手机版! | 显示全部楼层
漆室葵忧 发表于 2017-11-21 09:17
一级推力不一定会比长征11小,但发射重量可能比长征11小一些,弹道导弹采用高推重比设计有利于缩短上升时 ...


昨天我是按最低标准来算的,发射重量应该是比长11少一些的,一级装药量可能会少于41,另外就是一二级壳体长11都是钢壳的,41起码也得是芳纶,芳纶壳要比钢壳减重很多,如果是碳纤维的那又得比芳纶纤维减重25-30%,还有喷管啥的杂七杂八的加起来比长征11轻个六七吨甚至更多是完全可能的
ignix 发表于 2017-11-24 12:10 | 显示全部楼层
China tested ICBM on eve of Trump visit
By Bill Gertz - - Wednesday, November 22, 2017

Pentagon officials confirmed this week that China carried out the flight test of a new long-range missile just two days before President Trump visited Beijing earlier this month.

The flight test of the new DF-41 intercontinental ballistic missile, expected to carry multiple warheads, was tracked from a launch area in northern China to an impact area in the western desert region by U.S. intelligence agencies. The test took place Nov. 6, and details were kept secret by the Trump administration to avoid upsetting the president’s talks with Chinese President Xi Jinping.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/nov/22/inside-the-ring-china-tested-icbm-on-eve-of-trump-/
zhutou6 发表于 2017-11-24 12:27 | 显示全部楼层
lvshoutao 发表于 2017-11-21 10:14
昨天我是按最低标准来算的,发射重量应该是比长11少一些的,一级装药量可能会少于41,另外就是一二级壳 ...

KZ-11都是三级全碳了,CZ-11怎么还是钢壳?航天科技感觉没啥忧患意识啊。
拓跋尊 发表于 2017-11-24 16:04 | 显示全部楼层
62基地某新组建导弹旅,旅长周勇坤,政委许保坤
是新型作战力量,是大国长剑,是杀手锏
lvshoutao 发表于 2017-11-24 17:58 来自航空航天港手机版! | 显示全部楼层
zhutou6 发表于 2017-11-24 12:27
KZ-11都是三级全碳了,CZ-11怎么还是钢壳?航天科技感觉没啥忧患意识啊。


长征11下一步也要用碳纤维壳的了,长11的一级搞得也早一些,长11的一级2009年试车的那时国内可能还生产不了T-800级别的碳纤维或者产量很少
仇恨池 发表于 2018-2-5 22:02 | 显示全部楼层
疑似最新的DF-41发射试验http://www.eastpendulum.com/9e-essai-icbm-df-41-bien-dautres

A0285/18
Q) ZLHW/QARLC/IV/NBO/E/000/999/4105N09502E055
A) ZLHW B) 1801260850 C) 1801260940
E) THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD:
1. V67: NUKTI-N4027.9E09724.1.
2. B215: IBANO-NUKTI.
3. G470: IBANO-BIKNO.

A0284/18
Q) ZWUQ/QARLC/IV/NBO/E/000/999/
A) ZWUQ B) 1801260850 C) 1801260950
E) THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD:
1.G470: IPMUN-BIKNO.
2.W192: IPMUN-RUSDI.
3.W191: ESDEX-MOVBI.
F) FL000 G) FL999

A0310/18
Q) ZBPE/QARLC/IV/NBO/E/000/999/
A) ZBPE B) 1801300338 C) 1801300412
E) THE SEGMENT ORDOS VOR ‘HDS’-MUDPO OF ATS RTE W193 CLSD.

A0321/18
Q) ZLHW/QARLC/IV/NBO/E/000/999/
A) ZLHW B) 1801300720 C) 1801300810
E) THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD:
1. V67: NUKTI – JIAYUGUAN VOR’CHW’.
2. B215: IBANO – NUKTI.
3. G470: IBANO-BIKNO.
4. W191: MOVBI – KARVI.
5. W187: KARVI-TUSLI – OBDEG.
6. W192: TUSLI – RUSDI.
7. THE SEGMENTS WI AN AREA CENTERED AT ZLDH AIRPORT WITH RADIUS OF
60KM CLSD.A0319/18
Q) ZWUQ/QARLC/IV/NBO/E/000/999/
A) ZWUQ B) 1801300720 C) 1801300810
E) THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD:
1. W192: ESDEX-RUSDI.
2. W187: SADAN-OBDEG.
3. Y1: SADAN-MAGOD.
4. L888: SADAN-TONAX.
5. W112: 300KM EAST OF HOTAN VOR’HTN’-ADMUX.
F) GND G) UNL


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zhutou6 发表于 2018-2-6 14:08 | 显示全部楼层
仇恨池 发表于 2018-2-5 22:02
疑似最新的DF-41发射试验http://www.eastpendulum.com/9e-essai-icbm-df-41-bien-dautres

A0285/18

应该不全是DF41,有短程的,可能还有反导拦截
仇恨池 发表于 2018-2-6 17:53 来自航空航天港手机版! | 显示全部楼层
zhutou6 发表于 2018-2-6 14:08
应该不全是DF41,有短程的,可能还有反导拦截

我也没细看,作者全鼓捣一块儿说了
langge945 发表于 2018-6-6 11:37 | 显示全部楼层

美国《华盛顿自由灯塔》报6月5日报道,美国国防部官员透露,5月27日发现中国进行东风-41洲际导弹的试射活动,这次试射中东风-41导弹投射了多个弹头,并命中中国西部靶场目标。

报道称,5月27日,携带多个弹头的东风-41导弹从中国北部的太原卫星发射中心升空,飞行数千公里后,命中西部戈壁沙漠中的靶场。法国军事博主亨利·K在其“东方钟摆”网站上也声称5月27日中国发布的NOTAM通告显示在西北上空划出禁飞区,与2017年东风-41导弹试射时相同。
美国五角大楼发言人,克里斯托弗·洛根上校针对这一报道回应说:“我们已经了解到最近的飞行试验,我们将持续关注中国武器的发展,但我们不能就此次试验情况发表具体信息。
zhutou6 发表于 2018-6-6 11:40 | 显示全部楼层
langge945 发表于 2018-6-6 11:37
美国《华盛顿自由灯塔》报6月5日报道,美国国防部官员透露,5月27日发现中国进行东风-41洲际导弹的试射活 ...

没说具体打了几个弹头。可能不想暴露美国的探测能力。10个弹头是Fisher早前说的,Fisher没料,肯定就是照抄尹卓的说法。戈茨现在也耍滑头,这回也没有独家exclusive source. 不过看样子,41多弹头是实锤的,有多少倒是真不清楚
zhyuli 发表于 2018-6-6 12:02 | 显示全部楼层
langge945 发表于 2018-6-6 11:37
美国《华盛顿自由灯塔》报6月5日报道,美国国防部官员透露,5月27日发现中国进行东风-41洲际导弹的试射活 ...

图是5月22日的对不上啊
仇恨池 发表于 2018-6-6 12:23 来自航空航天港手机版! | 显示全部楼层
zhyuli 发表于 2018-6-6 12:02
图是5月22日的对不上啊

这倒是,刚注意到,不知道5.27的NOTAM如何
kktt 发表于 2018-6-6 13:47 | 显示全部楼层
A1898/18 NOTAMN
Q) ZLHW/QARLC/IV/NBO/E/000/999/4020N10322E166
A) ZLHW B) 1805270426 C) 1805270500
E) THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD:
1. A596: YABRAI VOR'YBL' - DENGKOU VOR'DKO'.
2. B330: YABRAI VOR'YBL' - GOBIN.

A1899/18 NOTAMN
Q) ZLHW/QARLC/IV/NBO/E/000/999/4020N10322E166
A) ZLHW B) 1805270418 C) 1805270527
E) THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD:
1. A596: YABRAI VOR'YBL' - DENGKOU VOR'DKO'.
2. B330: YABRAI VOR'YBL' - GOBIN.



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kktt 发表于 2018-6-6 13:52 | 显示全部楼层
http://freebeacon.com/national-s ... multi-warhead-icbm/


China Flight Tests New Multi-Warhead ICBM
Tenth DF-41 launch shows Beijing's most lethal nuclear missile nears deployment

BY: Bill Gertz       
June 5, 2018 5:00 am

China moved closer to deploying its newest and most lethal strategic weapon by conducting the 10th flight test of the DF-41 intercontinental-range missile last week.

Defense officials said the flight test of the multi-warhead DF-41 took place May 27 at the Taiyuan Space Launch Center in northern China and flew overland several thousand miles to an impact zone in the western Gobi Desert.

"We are aware of recent flight tests and we continue to monitor weapons development in China but we cannot provide information on specific tests," Pentagon spokesman Marine Corps Lt. Col. Christopher Logan told the Washington Free Beacon.

The flight test comes amid growing tensions between the United States and China over Beijing's militarization of islands in the South China Sea and a looming trade war over the Trump administration's aggressive posture toward unfair Chinese trade practices.

The flight test last week was the 10th known launch of the DF-41 that will be armed with up to 10 multiple, independently targetable reentry vehicles or MIRV warheads.

The intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) system will be deployed on a road-mobile ICBM capable of targeting all of the United States. The mobility and ability to hide the weapon from intelligence detection poses serious challenges for U.S. strategic nuclear deterrence.

China's state media have said the DF-41 will be capable of being armed with up to 10 warheads each with a yield of 150 kilotons, or single, massive, 5.5 megaton warhead. A kiloton is the equivalent of 1,000 tons of TNT; a megaton is equal to 1 million tons.

The addition of multiple warheads to all of China's ICBMs represents a substantial increase in the number of warheads in the arsenal capable of ranging all of the United States.

China made no mention of the latest flight test in state controlled media.

However, Chinese authorities announced in an international notice to airmen the closure of airspace on May 27 along a flight path used past DF-41 tests, according to Henri Kenhmann, who runs the East Pendulum blog that monitors Chinese military developments.

The main Communist Party newspaper reported in December that the DF-41 is one of Beijing's most potent new weapons. The People's Daily said the DF-41 would be fielded early in 2018 and has a range of over 7,500 miles.

As in the past, the latest DF-41 flight test appeared timed to send a political message to the United States.

CCTV-warheadsThe most recent test took place days before a U.S. trade delegation headed by Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross visited China for talks.

China issued a statement Sunday warning that if the Trump administration goes ahead with plans to impose $50 billion in tariffs on Chinese goods that Beijing would break off past trade accords.

"If the United States introduces trade sanctions including tariffs, all the economic and trade achievements negotiated by the two parties will be void," the official Xinhua news agency said.

Before last week, the most recent DF-41 flight test took place Nov. 6—two days before President Trump visited Beijing in what military analysts said was an intentional show of force prior to the presidential visit.

A report made public last year by the National Air and Space Intelligence Center said the DF-41 is a new road-mobile ICBM likely capable of carrying MIRV payloads.

"The number of warheads on Chinese ICBMs capable of threatening the United States is expected to grow to well over 100 in the next five years," the report said, noting China's Strategic Rocket Force "continues to have the most active and diverse ballistic missile development program in the world."

"It is developing and testing offensive missiles, forming additional missile units, qualitatively upgrading missile systems, and developing methods to counter ballistic missile defenses," the report said.

Rick Fisher, a senior fellow at the International Assessment and Strategy Center, said the 10th flight test is a significant milestone.

The test "means this mobile, solid-fuel intercontinental ballistic missile is much closer to deployment, in both its road-mobile and rail-mobile versions," Fisher said.

"As the missile already has been tested with up to 10 new small warheads, it can be expected that the DF-41 may also become an early carrier of China's developing nuclear and non-nuclear maneuverable hypersonic glide vehicle warheads," Fisher added.

Hypersonic glide vehicle warheads, when deployed in the next several years will provide China with a capability the United States has sought to develop through its non-nuclear rapid strike system known as Prompt Global Strike concept, he said.

Additionally, the DF-41 is expected to accelerate China's development of a next-generation JL-3 submarine-launched ballistic missile for the new Type 096 nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine that is expected to come on line in the early 2020s.

"China's rapidly modernizing intercontinental nuclear and non-nuclear strike capabilities undermines the credibility of America's extended nuclear deterrent upon which so many U.S. allies have come to depend," Fisher said.

"Washington must rapidly redeploy theater tactical nuclear weapons or some U.S. allies could opt for their own nuclear deterrent in the face of China's growing missile threats."

Air Force Gen. John Hyten, commander of the Strategic Command, told a congressional hearing in March that the Chinese and Russian nuclear buildups are behind plans for the Untied States to build a new sea-launched nuclear cruise missile.

"The threat is from both Russia and China that drives the need for the sea-launched cruise missile," Hyten said.

A senior Strategic Command official told the Free Beacon earlier this year that plans for new low-yield nuclear warheads were prompted by China's large-scale deployment of medium- and intermediate-range nuclear missiles, and Russia's treaty-violating ground-launched medium-range nuclear cruise missile.

To deal with the China threat, Strategic Command recommended deploying a new sea-launched missile, to be fired from either a surface warship or submarine.

The new smaller warheads, that can be developed from the existing primary nuclear warheads currently in the arsenal, were recommended in the Pentagon's recent Nuclear Posture Review completed in February.

The review warned that China is engaged in a large-scale buildup that includes future deployment of the DF-41 that the Pentagon calls the CSS-X-20.

"China continues to increase the number, capabilities, and protection of its nuclear forces," the report said, noting excessive secrecy surrounding the build up.

The Pentagon report mentioned the DF-41 as one of the major worries.

"China has developed a new road-mobile strategic intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM), a new multi-warhead version of its DF-5 silo-based ICBM, and its most advanced ballistic missile submarine armed with new submarine-launched ballistic missiles (SLBM). It has also announced development of a new nuclear-capable strategic bomber, giving China a nuclear triad. China has also deployed a nuclear-capable precision guided DF-26 intermediate-range ballistic missile capable of attacking land and naval targets.

A Chinese Embassy spokesman did not return an email seeking comment on the missile test.

China's Defense Ministry has said in the past in response to an earlier DF-41 test that it was common for missile tests to be carried out for scientific research.

"Such tests are not aimed at any specific country and target," the ministry said in response to an April 2017 DF-41 test.
kktt 发表于 2018-6-6 14:41 | 显示全部楼层
http://www.calt.com/n689/c11944/content.html

 5月30日,中国航天科技集团有限公司新任董事长、党组书记吴燕生到中国运载火箭技术研究院(以下简称“火箭院”)检查指导工作

火箭院党委书记李明华汇报时说,年初火箭院确立了“型号任务保成功、经济发展保增长”的工作目标。截至目前,火箭院各项工作任务完成顺利,但后续任务任重道远,还需加倍努力。
仇恨池 发表于 2018-6-6 16:30 来自航空航天港手机版! | 显示全部楼层
kktt 发表于 2018-6-6 13:47
A1898/18 NOTAMN
Q) ZLHW/QARLC/IV/NBO/E/000/999/4020N10322E166
A) ZLHW B) 1805270426 C) 1805270500  ...

感谢k版提供的NOTAM
碧海蓝天 发表于 2018-6-6 17:28 | 显示全部楼层
期待DF41正式亮相的那一天,想必一定很震撼。
zhutou6 发表于 2018-6-6 20:23 | 显示全部楼层
kktt 发表于 2018-6-6 13:47
A1898/18 NOTAMN
Q) ZLHW/QARLC/IV/NBO/E/000/999/4020N10322E166
A) ZLHW B) 1805270426 C) 1805270500  ...

落区没有圆形禁飞区域,这次试验不是多弹头?
zhutou6 发表于 2018-6-6 20:27 | 显示全部楼层
碧海蓝天 发表于 2018-6-6 17:28
期待DF41正式亮相的那一天,想必一定很震撼。

TEL和发射筒外形早就有了,要亮相弹头整流罩形状才有价值。
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