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[专题专项] 商业航天公司之SpaceX/政策计划人事财务预算等:USAF完成Falcon 9 Upgrade认证

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本帖最后由 cmj9808 于 2016-1-26 18:49 编辑

++2013-10-31 (以后放到后面)        SpaceX当前工作的几个(重点)引起关注的分支:
    1. 商业发射市场的开拓和保持(例行的安全发射)
    2. 可重复火箭的开发
    3. 载人系统的开发
    4. F9H重型火箭的开发
    5. 自有发射场的选择
    6. 猛禽发动机开发。
  
------------------------------------2012-09-26  补充说明(各种相关连接):----------------------------------------
    SpaceX的其他的具体跟踪帖:
     1.   综合帖子:
          (本贴)  私人商业公司之SpaceX(政策计划人事财务等...
             网易做了一个SPACEX的专题,想听听各位的看法
     2. ‘龙’飞船普通帖
        SPACEX公司的“天座”飞船:简介CRS任务中...

     3. 龙飞船(载人型)
          ... 搜索..

     4. Falcon火箭综合帖子
          ... 搜索...
   
     5. 重型火箭的帖子
       重型猎鹰(Falcon Heavy)火箭:SpaceX与Intelsat签...

     6.  可重复使用火箭开发
         http://www.9ifly.cn/thread-9913-1-1.html


*******************SpaceX大事记******************************
2013年09月30日,发射了经过重要升级的猎鹰-9 V1.1火箭,性能大幅度提升。
2012年09月22日,开始测试其可重复运载火箭(蚱蜢1.0)。
2010年12月08日 发射其首个龙飞船(ISS演示)
2010年6月05日,发射其首枚猎鹰-9火箭
2006年3月24日,发射其首枚火箭,猎鹰-1(失败)
2002年: 成立

=================下面是开贴时候的说明:===============

  风头正盛的公司,给他建个专门主题,免得总和别的掺掺和和.
   
  与一些具体项目不同,本主题主要收集SpaceX的综合消息、零碎消息(或不容易定位到具体主题的其他消息),譬如财政、人事、政策方向、等等等。
  

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 楼主| hkhtg090201 发表于 2011-4-21 10:45 | 显示全部楼层
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SpaceX计划3年完成载人(Crew) 龙飞船,下面是Crew 龙的计划里程碑.


PS:CCDev-2 给 SpaceX的 Crew龙 注入强心剂?

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cmj9808 发表于 2011-4-22 13:59 | 显示全部楼层
美国仲裁协会判决SpaceX退还英国通讯卫星公司Avanti为Hylas 1支付的预付款,连本带利共计760万美元。由于SpaceX的进度落后于Avanti的要求,Hylas 1改由Ariane V发射

Avanti Wins Arbitration Award from SpaceX

http://www.spacenews.com/launch/ ... tration-spacex.html
 楼主| hkhtg090201 发表于 2011-4-22 14:36 | 显示全部楼层
       不大的公司,摊子铺的这么大:又是火箭,又是飞船;又是中型,又是重型;又是货运,又是载人,又是商业卫星发射。
       这也难怪他在单个项目上的进度要落后了,盯着远处利益?丢了近处利益?到头来可别远近都够不着,最终破产买给别人。
suxiaolang 发表于 2011-4-22 16:05 | 显示全部楼层
Avanti嫌SPACEX动作太慢了
delta4heavy 发表于 2011-4-22 20:55 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 delta4heavy 于 2011-4-22 20:55 编辑

Hylas-1 09年就决定改用阿里安公司的Soyuz-ST发射,结果库鲁的发射工位建设一直拖延到现在,被迫改用Ariane-5
shaolin1254 发表于 2011-4-23 00:10 | 显示全部楼层
这公司当初敢选F9发射也真是够大胆的
dogflying 发表于 2011-4-23 11:55 | 显示全部楼层
给轨道科学也建立个主题?活着楼主开贴说CCDev吧
 楼主| hkhtg090201 发表于 2011-4-24 19:13 | 显示全部楼层
美一航天私企欲送人上火星
2011年04月24日 17:07  新民晚报

  新华社上午电 美国宇宙探索技术公司23日宣布,打算在10至20年内,把首名宇航员送上火星。
  公司首席执行官埃隆·马斯克23日接受美国《华尔街日报》采访时说:“我们打算大约3年后送人上太空,最终到火星。我认为,最顺利情况下需10年,最坏需15至20年。”

PS:尽管不相信,但话是从Musk的嘴里说出来的。

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不管你信不信,反正我是不信  发表于 2011-11-19 10:52
angelowch 发表于 2011-4-24 23:09 | 显示全部楼层
主要是因为波音和洛克马丁公司不地道,老是敲诈美国政府,所以美国才大力扶持这个公司的
cmj9808 发表于 2011-4-25 12:47 | 显示全部楼层
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hkhtg090201 发表于 2011-4-24 19:13
美一航天私企欲送人上火星
2011年04月24日 17:07  新民晚报


这仅仅是Musk的愿望,决定人类登陆火星时间的是NASA和美国国会,而不是SpaceX。

Aerocapture和大质量载荷的EDLS、核电/核热推进、液氢储存和在轨加注、闭式半闭式循环系统、太阳暴/宇宙射线防护、容断网 (Disruption-Tolerant Networking)通讯、长期低重力环境人体功能的维持。。。。。。这里面任何一项都超出了SpaceX能力所及,SpaceX所能做的只是提供发射载具和成员返回用飞船,而这两样有很多美国公司可以提供。

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分析的很不错!  发表于 2011-11-19 10:53
 楼主| hkhtg090201 发表于 2011-4-29 07:50 | 显示全部楼层
太空探索技术公司创始人马斯克答记者问

新闻发布时间:2011-04-28

  [据美国今日航天网2011年4月25日报道]电动汽车先驱者、太空预言家、太空探索技术公司创始人艾伦•马斯克在谈到其鹊起的声誉和为什么有如此之多的富豪们有星际幻想时回答了以下七个问题:
  
  问:新电影“电动汽车的复仇”中描绘了你拥有的特斯拉公司和其他将建造低价电动汽车的汽车制造商之间的竞争,谁将会赢?
  答:特斯拉公司在可持续交通方面将会获得的最大利益是激励其他人加入到电动汽车的行列中来。我们的目标只是要促进交通电气化。
  
  问:你被认为是一名麻烦制造者,不是吗?
  答:我不会只是为了好玩而制造麻烦。
  
  问:发生在日本的灾难是否加速了“你要在外太空培育生命”的使命?
  答:发生在日本的灾难与未来将要发生的灾难相比是非常非常轻微的。这只是大自然的一个警告。
  
  问:你真的认为我们能够在外太空维持生命吗?
  答:这非常难,虽然概率比较低,但要在火星上建立自我维持的生态系统还是有可能,这是地球40
  亿年首次出现这种可能性,因此我认为我们必须抓住这种可能。
  
  问:你对于今年将要结束的NASA航天飞机计划感到担忧吗?
  答:根本不。航天飞机在10年以前就应该退役了。
  
  问:在富豪中已经形成一种涉足太空探索的趋势,像保罗•艾伦和理查德•布兰森,这仅仅是一场无聊的竞赛吗?
  答:我不认为有什么无聊的竞赛,进入太空就像听起来一样有趣。我们的竞争者不是保罗•艾伦和布兰森,而是波音、洛·马和一些大型航空航天企业。
  
  问:上周你参加了为奥巴马总统举行的35800美元一盘的宴会筹款活动,他做得怎么样?
        答:他没有深厚的商业背景,但他却能认真倾听。我并不崇拜这家伙,但我认为他相当不错。(中国航天工程咨询中心 陈杰 侯丹)
cmj9808 发表于 2011-5-5 10:33 | 显示全部楼层
Elon Musk回应对SpaceX报价的质疑

http://www.spacex.com/updates.php

Why the US Can Beat China: The Facts About SpaceX Costs
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
May 4, 2011

Whenever someone proposes to do something that has never been done before, there will always be skeptics.

So when I started SpaceX, it was not surprising when people said we wouldn’t succeed. But now that we’ve successfully proven Falcon 1, Falcon 9 and Dragon, there’s been a steady stream of misinformation and doubt expressed about SpaceX’s actual launch costs and prices.

As noted last month by a Chinese government official, SpaceX currently has the best launch prices in the world and they don’t believe they can beat them. This is a clear case of American innovation trumping lower overseas labor rates.

I recognize that our prices shatter the historical cost models of government-led developments, but these prices are not arbitrary, premised on capturing a dominant share of the market, or “teaser” rates meant to lure in an eager market only to be increased later. These prices are based on known costs and a demonstrated track record, and they exemplify the potential of America's commercial space industry.

Here are the facts:

The price of a standard flight on a Falcon 9 rocket is $54 million. We are the only launch company that publicly posts this information on our website (www.spacex.com). We have signed many legally binding contracts with both government and commercial customers for this price (or less). Because SpaceX is so vertically integrated, we know and can control the overwhelming majority of our costs. This is why I am so confident that our performance will increase and our prices will decline over time, as is the case with every other technology.

The average price of a full-up NASA Dragon cargo mission to the International Space Station is $133 million including inflation, or roughly $115m in today’s dollars, and we have a firm, fixed price contract with NASA for 12 missions. This price includes the costs of the Falcon 9 launch, the Dragon spacecraft, all operations, maintenance and overhead, and all of the work required to integrate with the Space Station. If there are cost overruns, SpaceX will cover the difference. (This concept may be foreign to some traditional government space contractors that seem to believe that cost overruns should be the responsibility of the taxpayer.)

The total company expenditures since being founded in 2002 through the 2010 fiscal year were less than $800 million, which includes all the development costs for the Falcon 1, Falcon 9 and Dragon. Included in this $800 million are the costs of building launch sites at Vandenberg, Cape Canaveral and Kwajalein, as well as the corporate manufacturing facility that can support up to 12 Falcon 9 and Dragon missions per year. This total also includes the cost of five flights of Falcon 1, two flights of Falcon 9, and one up and back flight of Dragon.

The Falcon 9 launch vehicle was developed from a blank sheet to first launch in four and half years for just over $300 million. The Falcon 9 is an EELV class vehicle that generates roughly one million pounds of thrust (four times the maximum thrust of a Boeing 747) and carries more payload to orbit than a Delta IV Medium.

The Dragon spacecraft was developed from a blank sheet to the first demonstration flight in just over four years for about $300 million. Last year, SpaceX became the first private company, in partnership with NASA, to successfully orbit and recover a spacecraft. The spacecraft and the Falcon 9 rocket that carried it were designed, manufactured and launched by American workers for an American company. The Falcon 9/Dragon system, with the addition of a launch escape system, seats and upgraded life support, can carry seven astronauts to orbit, more than double the capacity of the Russian Soyuz, but at less than a third of the price per seat.

SpaceX has been profitable every year since 2007, despite dramatic employee growth and major infrastructure and operations investments. We have over 40 flights on manifest representing over $3 billion in revenues.

These are the objective facts, confirmed by external auditors. Moreover, SpaceX intends to make far more dramatic reductions in price in the long term when full launch vehicle reusability is achieved. We will not be satisfied with our progress until we have achieved this long sought goal of the space industry.

For the first time in more than three decades, America last year began taking back international market-share in commercial satellite launch. This remarkable turn-around was sparked by a small investment NASA made in SpaceX in 2006 as part of the Commercial Orbital Transportation Services (COTS) program. A unique public-private partnership, COTS has proven that under the right conditions, a properly incentivized contractor — even an all-American one — can develop extremely complex systems on rapid timelines and a fixed-price basis, significantly beating historical industry-standard costs.

China has the fastest growing economy in the world. But the American free enterprise system, which allows anyone with a better mouse-trap to compete, is what will ensure that the United States remains the world’s greatest superpower of innovation.

--Elon--
joki 发表于 2011-5-5 15:46 | 显示全部楼层
那个中国官员谦虚了,其实现有长征火箭打GTO报价和SpaceX差不多,但人民币升值太厉害,这样下去恐怕真是没竞争力。
下一代的CZ7、CZ5,单位载荷成本会有下降么?
zhang 发表于 2011-5-5 19:49 | 显示全部楼层
$800 million? 这点钱给 Constellation 塞牙缝都不够。可见 NASA 和那些大公司混在一起有多腐败。

火箭的成本不能只看市场上发射的报价,还要看开发和基建的花费。这方面就难说了。

劳动力便宜在这个领域基本没什么优势,而且劳动力也不可能一直那么便宜的。
suxiaolang 发表于 2011-5-5 22:12 | 显示全部楼层
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zhang 发表于 2011-5-5 19:49
$800 million? 这点钱给 Constellation 塞牙缝都不够。可见 NASA 和那些大公司混在一起有多腐败。

火箭的 ...


腐败倒不一定,但是官僚是肯定的
cmj9808 发表于 2011-5-6 11:26 | 显示全部楼层
COTS的两个参与者SpaceX和OSC走了两条截然不同的道路。SpaceX的目标是尽可能减少供应链,最新的Merlin 1D连涡轮泵都改成自己生产。OSC则是尽可能利用成熟产品,能外包就外包,只有飞船的服务舱是自己造的(卫星平台也是OSC的老本行)。
最终会是条条大路通罗马还是一枝独秀,真令人期待啊
 楼主| hkhtg090201 发表于 2011-5-6 11:34 | 显示全部楼层
SpaceX公司总裁发表博文说明火箭成本低的原因

新闻发布时间:2011-05-05

  [据美国今日航天网2011年5月4日报道] 2011年5月4日,美国太空探索技术公司(SpaceX)首席执行官艾伦•马斯克发表博文论述了“猎鹰”火箭低成本的原因。在博文中,马斯克公布了SpaceX公司实际发射成本和价格方面的情况,以此应对源源不断的误传和怀疑。

  马斯克说:“我承认我们的价格大大打击了政府主导发展的传统成本模型。但这一价格并不是以取得市场的优势份额或者实施诱惑利率(teaser rates)策略为前提随意确定的,诱惑利率意味着在一个充满渴求的市场上以低价引诱客户,而在事后提高价格。SpaceX公司提出的价格基于已知的成本和已证明的以往记录,这些价格证明了美国商业太空工业的潜能”。

  马斯克称SpaceX公司的纵向一体化管理意味着该公司可以了解和控制大部分成本,使得其能够提供并公布标准“猎鹰”-9火箭飞行的固定价格为5400万美元。马斯克说:“这就是为什么我如此自信随着时间的推移,我们的火箭性能会提高而价格会降低的原因。这与所有其他技术面临的情况是一样的。”

  SpaceX公司从2002年公司创立到2010财年的全部支出不到8亿美元,其中包括“猎鹰”-1轻型火箭、“猎鹰”-9中型火箭和“龙”航天器的全部研发成本;加上在范登堡、卡那维拉尔角和夸贾林建设发射设施的成本,这些发射设施每年至多能够支持12次“猎鹰”-9和“龙”航天器任务;还要加上“猎鹰”-1火箭5次飞行、“猎鹰”-9火箭两次飞行和“龙”航天器一次往返飞行的成本。

  对于现在大多数依赖政府合同的运载器制造商来说,8亿美元仅够一年的研发投资。较低的研发和生产成本以及设备管理费带来了较低的发射价格。但运营公司不是为了亏损资金。马斯克说:“尽管雇员大量增加以及有重要的基础设施和运营投资,但SpaceX公司从2007年开始每年都是赢利的。我们有超过40次的飞行任务清单,表明有超过30亿美元的收入”。

  马斯克称他提供的所有数字都是“客观事实,经过外部审计员的核实。而且从长远来看,SpaceX公司打算在获得完全可重复使用运载器的时候,使成本更为明显地减少”。“完全可重复使用运载器”的宏伟目标是SpaceX公司已经谈及过的一个问题。最终,该公司将要找到一条回收和翻新“猎鹰”-9火箭第一级和第二级的途径。(中国航天工程咨询中心  陈杰 侯丹)  
cmj9808 发表于 2011-5-12 19:49 | 显示全部楼层
SpaceX任命为Bret Johnsen为首席财务官(CFO),Johnsen曾在博通(Broadcom)和Mindspeed担任高管

SpaceX Names Bret Johnsen as Chief Financial Officer
Former Broadcom Executive Joins Company at a Time of Incredible Growth  

Hawthorne, CA – Space Exploration Technologies (SpaceX) has named Bret Johnsen as Chief Financial Officer, bringing 20 years of financial leadership experience in high-profile, publicly traded companies to SpaceX as it undergoes rapid growth on the back of tremendous technological and market success.

Johnsen's appointment follows the company’s fourth straight year of profitability (2007-2010).  The total value of SpaceX NASA and commercial contracts recently topped $3 billion for over 40 launches. The company has also grown to more than 1,300 employees.

“Bret has an exceptional talent for financial management in high-growth, publicly held technology companies,” said Elon Musk, SpaceX CEO and CTO.  “Looking at his career, he is clearly someone that always sought out tough challenges and produced impressive results.  His experience will be invaluable to SpaceX as we implement the financial standards and processes needed to allow for the possibility of becoming a public company.”

“I am thrilled to be part of a team that is transforming the space industry,” said Johnsen. “It is exciting to join such a pioneering company as it continues to grow and increase market share.  My job at SpaceX will be to ensure financial discipline, while supporting the formula that makes SpaceX great.”

Johnsen spent nearly a decade at Broadcom Corporation, the world’s largest manufacturer of semiconductors for wired and wireless communications.  He played a key role in helping transform Broadcom into a leading Fortune 500 technology company. There he developed processes that drove operating efficiencies, saving Broadcom millions of dollars annually.  Starting out as Controller for a number of business groups within Broadcom, he quickly rose up the ranks.  He ultimately was named Vice President, Corporate Controller and Principal Accounting Officer, overseeing an 80-member accounting organization in nine countries for the cutting-edge technology company.

After leaving Broadcom, he served as Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer for Mindspeed Technologies.  Last year, he was named “CFO of the Year” by the Orange County Business Journal for bringing the chip maker through the recession by cutting costs, reworking debt, selling stock and raising cash through patent sales.  “The moves helped reposition Mindspeed for profitability and brought renewed attention from Wall Street,” the Journal said.

Johnsen holds a Bachelor of Science in Accounting from the University of Southern California and a Master of Science in Finance from San Diego State University.  He is a certified public accountant in the State of California.

Lsquirrel 发表于 2011-5-12 21:15 | 显示全部楼层
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joki 发表于 2011-5-5 15:46
那个中国官员谦虚了,其实现有长征火箭打GTO报价和SpaceX差不多,但人民币升值太厉害,这样下去恐怕真是没竞 ...

我们的价格要高至少1000万美元,这还是2005年的价格,2005年7月开始人民币升值到现在,汇率已经从8.3升值到6.5了。如果人民币币值的价格不变,美元报价就要相应提高到8300万美元,比质子火箭略低而已,远远高于Falon9的报价。

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