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[战略战术导弹] 俄罗斯陆基战略武器──白杨-M/RS-24

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纸飞机 发表于 2010-7-6 17:22 | 显示全部楼层
好吧,我来求Kataev的档案下载
 楼主| kktt 发表于 2010-7-6 17:38 | 显示全部楼层
 楼主| kktt 发表于 2010-7-20 01:33 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 kktt 于 2010-7-20 01:34 编辑

范堡罗(英国)7月19日电 俄罗斯国防部副部长弗拉基米尔·波波夫金19日向俄新社透露,俄罗斯接装首个配备新一代RS-24洲际弹道导弹的导弹营,并将其投入战斗值勤任务。

波波夫金说:“RS-24导弹已经接装并投入战斗值勤。”

The long-awaited news about RS-24 deployment came today from Farnborough, where Vladimir Popovkin, the first deputy minister of defense, was speaking to the press. Although reports about RS-24 deployment surfaced before - earlier this month and in April, this is the first time it was officially confirmed.

The RS-24 "Yars" is a MIRVed version of the mobile Topol-M missile. The first three missiles were apparently deployed at Teykovo, as it was originally planned.

It is still not clear how many warheads the missile carries - the press reports mention four, but I'm not sure if this is what Popovkin said. It may well be that they repeat a last-year report. There were also reports about RS-24 carrying three warheads. My analysis also suggests that RS-24 will have three warheads - in this case the warheads are similar to 400-kt warheads deployed on SS-24/RT-23UTTH missiles. I'll count RS-24 missiles as carrying three for the moment, but we'll have the correct number once the New START treaty is ratified.
 楼主| kktt 发表于 2010-7-20 01:41 | 显示全部楼层
RS-24是世界上第一种部署的公路机动多弹头洲际导弹
东方红 发表于 2010-7-20 05:56 | 显示全部楼层
从第三级直径与投掷重量分析,RS-24最多可携带4枚原有SS-24分导式弹头。
 楼主| kktt 发表于 2010-7-23 19:08 | 显示全部楼层
如果RS-24能带4个弹头,那可能是220 kt的弹头,重量大约150 kg。

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http://nvo.ng.ru/armament/2007-06-08/6_rockets.html
2007-06-08
НПО машиностроения и Государственный ракетный центр в НИР «Аргументация» предложили концепцию многофункциональной баллистической ракеты наземного базирования, основанной на сочетании технологий отечественных жидкостных МБР и БРПЛ. Высокие энергетические характеристики многофункциональной МБР – забрасываемый вес до 4350 кг на дальность более 10 тыс. км по энергетически оптимальной траектории в 3,5 раза превышает соответствующий вес для МБР «Тополь-М». На новых МБР класса УР-100Н УТТХ в качестве основного базового оснащения рассматривается размещение до 10 боевых блоков среднего класса мощности со средствами противодействия ПРО, предполагается обеспечить сроки их службы до 30 лет. В военно-экономическом плане такая ракета превзойдет разрабатываемые ЧЕТЫРЕХБЛОЧНЫЕ со средствами противодействия ПРО твердотопливные ракеты в 3–4 раза и более, если учесть мощность боезарядов.
[Gradient] [July 22, 2010] [#]

Thank you. I agree - it well may be that RS-24 has four warheads. But it would be a warhead with the yield of about 220kt - a bit low for an ICBM. On the other hand, RS-24 is a somewhat unusual missile.

[For those who don't read Russian, the quote from NVO NG newspaper mentions that the new SS-19 follow-on missile would be more effective than "the currently developed FOUR-WARHEAD solid-propellant missiles"]
[Pavel Podvig Author Profile Page] [July 22, 2010] [#]
东方红 发表于 2010-8-20 18:51 | 显示全部楼层
俄罗斯战略导弹部队司令视察首支RS-24部队
2010年08月20日 15:14 中国国防科技信息网

据英国《简氏导弹与火箭》2010年8月19日报道,2010年8月10~12日,俄罗斯战略导弹部队新任司令卡拉卡耶夫(Sergei Karakayev)中将正式视察了驻扎在莫斯科东北约240千米处杰伊科沃的第54近卫导弹师。
第54近卫导弹师先前装备的是“白杨”SS-25机动式洲际弹道导弹系统,最近重新装备了18套“白杨”-M SS-27机动式洲际弹道导弹系统,和至少3套新型RS-24机动式洲际弹道导弹系统。RS-24机动式洲际弹道导弹是“白杨”-M SS-27机动式洲际弹道导弹的最新改型产品,用分导式多弹头替代了单弹头,增强了突防能力。
6月22日,俄罗斯总统梅德韦杰夫任命战略导弹部队前参谋长卡拉卡耶夫中将,接替施魏琴科上将担当战略导弹部队司令。2009年8月起,施魏琴科开始担任战略导弹部队司令,但俄罗斯军方并未明确指出解除其职务的原因。
 楼主| kktt 发表于 2010-8-20 20:15 | 显示全部楼层
施魏琴科才当了不到一年的司令,可能是犯了错误了
暴风烈火 发表于 2010-8-27 10:54 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 暴风烈火 于 2010-8-27 15:03 编辑

RS-24和SS-24不是一个东东,前者是老毛子的系统编号,后者是北约的命名

SS-24是前苏联的固体燃料多弹头导弹,老毛子的系统编号是RS-22;

RS-24有可能是Bulava的衍生品,甚至是Kuryer的衍生品
StarDreadnought 发表于 2010-8-27 17:01 | 显示全部楼层
RS-24是军控代号吧?
Kuryer不是对应侏儒么?怎么能和重型导弹搅一块儿去?
暴风烈火 发表于 2010-8-27 17:11 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 暴风烈火 于 2010-8-27 17:12 编辑
RS-24是军控代号吧?
Kuryer不是对应侏儒么?怎么能和重型导弹搅一块儿去?
StarDreadnought 发表于 2010-8-27 17:01



   RS-24是多弹头并不意味着就是重型洲际导弹,RS-22/SS-24的生产和总装都在乌克兰,前苏联解体后被拆除了,
 RS-22/SS-24做过公路机动试验被证实失败,而RS-24是能够公路机动和发射的,所以不太可能是这个型号的改进型
 楼主| kktt 发表于 2010-10-28 20:38 | 显示全部楼层
Successful launch of an old Topol

On October 28, 2010, the Strategic Rocket Forces performed a successful test launch of a Topol/SS-25 missile from the Plesetsk test site. The missile launch took place at 13:59 MSK (09:59UTC).

A representative of the Rocket Forces was quoted as saying that the missile was manufactured in 1987 and had remained in service until August 2007. The launch allowed the Rocket Forces to extend service life of the remaining Topol missiles to 23 years from the current 21 years. Missiles of this type were deployed in 1985-1992, so they will be withdrawn from service around 2015.
[Rocket Forces] [October 28, 2010]
mir-2 发表于 2010-10-29 19:09 | 显示全部楼层
苏联不同当量级别的核弹头有没有类似美帝那样的科学而规范的当量划分,不少资料都会提到苏联的小型化弹头有550kt这样一个当量,就像一个参考标准,还有一种模糊的表述方式:500 to 750 kT
东方红 发表于 2010-10-29 22:27 | 显示全部楼层
SS-18早期型号携带10枚当量55万吨弹头,后期型号携带10枚当量80万吨弹头。
 楼主| kktt 发表于 2010-12-2 10:20 | 显示全部楼层
Mobile Topol-Ms go MIRV

The commander of the Strategic Rocket Forces, Lt.-General Sergei Karakayev, announced today that all new mobile Topol-M missiles will carry multiple warheads. This modification of the missile is officially known as Yars or RS-24. The first three RS-24 missiles were deployed in Teykovo earlier this year. The report does not seem to suggest that any new mobile missiles will be deployed in Teykovo this year.

The switch from single-warhead to MIRVed Topol-M was expected - it is taken into account in the force projections prepared some time ago. Also, it appears that my other assumption - that the Topol-M missiles that have been already deployed will not be MIRVed - will also hold.

Unlike its mobile counterpart, the silo version of the Topol-M will still be deployed as a single-warhead missile. The Rocket Forces plan to complete deployment of the sixth regiment in Tatishchevo, bringing the number of missiles to 60. This means that deployment in Tatishchevo goes according to the plan. Karakayev also announced that the Rocket Forces will continue deployment of silo-based Topol-Ms in 2011.
[Rocket Forces] [November 30, 2010]

http://russianforces.org/blog/20 ... ol-ms_go_mirv.shtml
 楼主| kktt 发表于 2010-12-6 14:44 | 显示全部楼层
据俄罗斯媒体报道,俄罗斯战略火箭兵发言人科瓦利5日宣布,俄军当天成功试射一枚“白杨RS-12M”型洲际弹道导弹。

这枚“白杨RS-12M”型洲际弹道导弹由俄战略火箭兵当天从俄阿斯特拉罕州卡普斯京亚尔靶场发射,导弹准确命中哈萨克斯坦境内“萨雷-沙甘”靶场的目标。

科瓦利说,当天试射的导弹是23年前装备战略火箭部队的,发射目的是检验导弹超期服役后飞行技术性能的稳定性。这是俄今年第二次发射该型号洲际弹道导弹。

今年10月28日,俄战略火箭兵和航天兵联合从普列谢茨克发射场成功发射了一枚陆基RS-12M“白杨”洲际弹道导弹,准确击中位于堪察加半岛的库拉靶场预定目标。

“白杨RS-12M”型洲际弹道导弹于1983年首次发射,1985年开始服役,设计服役期为10年,现已大大超出最初设计使用寿命。俄罗斯媒体曾报道说,俄军计划把这种导弹的服役期延长至2015年。届时,更为先进的“白杨-M”型洲际弹道导弹将取而代之。

据悉,俄战略火箭兵目前拥有约500枚不同型号的洲际弹道导弹,其中包括约300枚“白杨RS-12M”型洲际弹道导弹。这种导弹为3级固体燃料火箭推动的洲际弹道导弹,发射重量45吨,射程达1万公里。它飞行速度快,抗干扰和突防能力强。
 楼主| kktt 发表于 2010-12-12 11:43 | 显示全部楼层
Topol launch from Kapustin Yar

On December 5, 2010 the Strategic Rocket Forces successfully launched a Topol (SS-25) missile from the Kapustin Yar test site toward the Sary-Shagan test site in Kazakhstan. The launch took place at 22:11 MSK (19:11 UTC). According the Rocket Forces report, the launch was used to extend the lifetime of the missile, to test various military instrumentation equipment, and to test new "combat payload" for intercontinental ballistic missiles.

The Sary-Shagan test site in Kazakhstan hosts a number of radars that were developed for missile defense and early-warning programs. Russia apparently uses launches to Sary-Shagan to test various missile defense countermeasures and maybe new types of reentry vehicles. The report on this launch suggests that Russia may have upgraded some radars or deployed new missile tracking equipment.

A similar launch was conducted in December 2009. At the time, the Rocket Forces announced that two "experimental launches of RS-12M [Topol]" from Kapustin Yar will be conducted in 2009. The December 2009 launch became the first and the current launch is apparently the second one in the series - the only other Topol launch in 2010 was conducted in October 2010 from Plesetsk.

http://russianforces.org/blog/20 ... _kapustin_yar.shtml
 楼主| kktt 发表于 2010-12-12 11:44 | 显示全部楼层
俄《自由媒体》报却提出了一个令人担忧的问题:导弹的产能。该报以“白杨-M”导弹的生产厂家沃特金斯基厂为例,称该厂目前连每年制造7枚导弹都不能保证,“等到该厂开始负责生产海基战略导弹‘圆锤’时,用于生产RS-24的资源将更少。”6年内,RS-24在理想情况下只能装备42枚,届时,俄核弹头运载工具将比现在减少四分之一。

俄政治军事学院院长奇拉姆尼欣持相似观点。在他看来,美国根本不在乎俄罗斯核力量如何发展,因为它一直处于衰落中。举例来说,2000年时,俄战略火箭军还有3540枚核弹头,到去年就只剩下了1247枚,“这种萎缩的势头现在看是无法遏止的。”

他认为,RS-24固然比“白杨-M”先进,但无力阻止俄核力量的衰落。
mir-2 发表于 2010-12-13 16:13 | 显示全部楼层
回复 36# kktt


    k大,白杨-M机动弹头(质心调整机动方式)的故事传了这么多年了,有无确切材料证实。感觉越来越虚无缥缈了。还是MK500靠谱,不过也只在美国人写的那本84年的书中见过简要介绍。
 楼主| kktt 发表于 2010-12-18 15:25 | 显示全部楼层
俄新网RUSNEWS.CN莫斯科12月17日电 俄战略导弹部队司令谢尔盖·卡拉卡耶夫中将17日在莫斯科透露,该部队在2030年前将使用固定和流动的配置更新突击集群。

今天是俄罗斯战略导弹部队成立51周年纪念日。目前该部队正准备逐步使用"白杨-M"和RS-24导弹取代井基导弹系统。

卡拉卡耶夫说:“预计未来10到20年导弹集群将和现在一样是二元化的,将保留固定导弹系统与流动导弹系统。这种做法将在开支最小、风险最低的情况下保证对正在发生和预计将出现的威胁实施相应的回击。”
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