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本帖最后由 zhh894217 于 2015-7-5 19:29 编辑

http://www.dsti.net/Information/News/71449
[据俄罗斯海军网2011年10月20日报道] 据谢夫马什造船厂消息称,955A型弹道导弹核潜艇“弗拉基米尔•莫诺马赫”号已经准备开始布线工作。

    该艇于俄罗斯潜艇舰队成立100周年之际(2006年3月19日)铺设龙骨,潜艇在谢夫马什造船厂进行建造。目前,造船厂的主要任务是为即将到来的潜艇交付做准备

    消息称,谢夫马什造船厂专家最近开始另一个壳体部分的建造工作。通用系统的组装正在紧张地进行,内部隔间的涂装和绝缘工作已经完成,特种涂层也正在进行装配。

    造船厂没有耽搁建造工作,很好地维持了潜艇的建造日程。水压测试已成功地完成。“弗拉基米尔•莫诺马赫”号弹道导弹核潜艇是谢夫马什造船厂建造的第三艘“北风”级潜艇,他们已经完成必要的测试,并掌握了很好的工作节奏。消息称,该艘“北风”级潜艇在2012年下水计划将按照指定日期进行。(中国船舶信息中心 苏强)                        
JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2011-11-9 18:35 | 显示全部楼层

俄巡洋舰改造,大型舰艇和潜艇专题

本帖最后由 zhh894217 于 2014-3-15 19:00 编辑

俄国防部和USC造船集团的2011年价格纠纷总算告一段落了。



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http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20111108/483854846.html

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合同已签订, 这样纳西莫夫号巡洋舰的改造就是板上钉钉的事情了。

而且已经确定在Sevmash船厂进行。


等待2012年裤子航母的改造合同,  到时候那个土船坞真是够拥挤的。




Defense and USC on November 9 signed 5 contracts for defense orders


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MOSCOW, November 8 - RIA Novosti. JSC "United Shipbuilding Corporation" (USC) and the Ministry of Defence on Wednesday, November 9, signed five defense contracts , told the Acting Director, Department of Defense to provide public defense contracts Andrew Vernigor.


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主要包括: 战略核潜艇,攻击性核潜艇。 海军造船厂的救援船, 纳西莫夫号巡洋舰的技术改造
zhyuli 发表于 2011-11-9 22:26 | 显示全部楼层
看来还是改造1艘,问题是刀刃导弹系统和卡什坦都停产了(库存也见底了),用什么代替呢??拭目以待
JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2011-11-9 22:37 | 显示全部楼层
zhyuli 发表于 2011-11-9 22:26
看来还是改造1艘,问题是刀刃导弹系统和卡什坦都停产了(库存也见底了),用什么代替呢??拭目以待

什么年代了还用卡斯坦?

棕榈树算是低版本, 怎么也是盘泽尔-S上舰版。
zhyuli 发表于 2011-11-9 22:49 | 显示全部楼层
棕榈树就是卡什坦的简化版本好不好......  用光电系统取代了原先的雷达-光电系统,这叫简化不过分吧!!

盘泽尔-S是卡什坦的升级版,更换了9M331型导弹,并且配套升级了探测系统,但是目前还没有上舰的例子吧

JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2011-11-9 22:56 | 显示全部楼层
zhyuli 发表于 2011-11-9 22:49
棕榈树就是卡什坦的简化版本好不好......  用光电系统取代了原先的雷达-光电系统,这叫简化不过分吧!!

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有继承性, 但是也不是那么简单的。
JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2011-11-10 08:36 | 显示全部楼层
其中包含了和孔雀石设计局研发885M的合同, 885M将实现所有部件的国产化, 完全放弃俄境外前苏联加盟国的零部件。


包括和鲁宾设计局的改进955核潜艇的合同, 改进核潜艇的计算机系统和实现导弹数量从16枚增加到20枚


其他的亚森级和北风级的制造合同是和sevmash签订的。





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http://www.rusnews.cn/eguoxinwen ... 11109/43207536.html

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普京:国防部9日签署了2800亿卢布采购合同


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俄新网RUSNEWS.CN北德文斯克11月9日电 俄罗斯总理弗拉基米尔•普京表示,俄罗斯国防部9日签署了7个采购合同总价值为2800亿卢布。


普京在与俄罗斯国防工业综合体代表及负责国防订购的副部长召开的会议上说:“今天签署的采购合同价值超过2800亿卢布。”
JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2011-11-10 13:45 | 显示全部楼层
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http://premier.gov.ru/events/news/17045/
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Перед посещением ОАО «ПО "Севмаш"» глава Правительства провёл совещание, посвящённое морской части гособоронзаказа на 2012 год. Обсуждались все параметры – ценовые, технические, временные.
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В Северодвинске в присутствии Председателя Правительства Российской Федерации В.В.Путина были подписаны следующие документы:
- контракт на разработку атомного подводного крейсера проекта 885 М;
- контракт на разработку атомного подводного крейсера проекта 955 А;
- контракт на строительство атомного подводного крейсера проекта 885 М;
- контракт на строительство спасательного судна проекта 21300;
- дополнение к соглашению-контракту на средний ремонт атомного подводного крейсера «Новомосковск»;
- контракт на разработку сокращённого технического проекта тяжёлого атомного ракетного крейсера проекта 1144.2;

- контракт на строительство серийных атомных подводных лодок проекта 885 М;
- договор подряда на выполнение работ по разработке рабочей документации, закупке оборудования и материалов, строительству и пусконаладке ледостойкой стационарной платформы №1 на месторождении имени Владимира Филановского;
- договор подряда на выполнение работ по разработке рабочей документации, закупке оборудования и материалов, строительству и пусконаладке центральной технологической платформы и переходного моста ЛСП1-ЦТП на месторождении имени Владимира Филановского;
- договор подряда на выполнение работ по разработке рабочей документации, закупке оборудования и материалов, строительству и пусконаладке платформы жилого модуля №1 и переходного моста на месторождении имени Владимира Филановского;
- акт о завершении ходовых испытаний самоподъёмной плавучей буровой установки «Арктическая».

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2011-11-9 签订的所有合同清单:

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-Contract to develop a nuclear submarine of project 885 M;( 分别和设计局签订的)
- Contract to develop a nuclear submarine of project 955 A;

- Contract for construction of nuclear submarine of project 885 M;
- Contract for the construction of the project 21 300 rescue boat; (海军上将造船厂, 这个艇太坑国防部预算了)


- Addition to the agreement, the contract for the repair of the average nuclear submarine "Novomoskovsk";(星星修船厂, 修理一艘Delta 4 SSBN)


- A contract to develop the technical design of reduced heavy nuclear missile cruiser project 1144.2;  (技术改造巡洋舰, 1144.2包括纳西莫夫号,拉扎耶夫号, 和彼得大帝号, 基洛夫号属于project 1144)


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钻井平台一类的。

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- Contractual agreement to perform work on the development of documentation, equipment and materials, construction and commissioning of offshore platform number 1 on the field after Vladimir Filanovsky;

- Contractual agreement to perform work on the development of documentation, equipment and materials, construction and commissioning of a central processing platform and the transition bridge LSP1-CTP on the field after Vladimir Filanovsky;

- Contractual agreement to perform work on the development of documentation, equipment and materials, construction and commissioning of the platform number 1 residential unit and transitional bridge from the field after Vladimir Filanovsky;

- Act on the completion of sea trials, self-elevating floating drilling rig "Arctic."
JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2011-11-10 19:57 | 显示全部楼层
November 9, 2011 in the presence of V. Putin in Severodvinsk, Russia's defense ministry has been signed with JSC "United Shipbuilding Corporation" (USC), seven contracts and agreements for the design and construction of ships for the Russian Navy, worth over 280 billion rubles. The following contracts were entered into an agreement to the following amounts:

164 billion rubles. - Contract with USC for the construction and delivery of four serial submarines 885M project "Ash-M";

47 billion rubles. - A contract with JSC "Northern Machine-Building Enterprise" for the construction of the parent nuclear submarine "Kazan" Project 885M (value of the contract meets the requirements of USC);

39 billion rubles. - Additional agreement with "CDB ME" Rubin "for designing a strategic nuclear submarine of Project 955A" Borey "(that is for design modifications uluchshennnoy Project 955);

13.4 billion rubles. - A contract with JSC "SPMBM" Malachite "to develop the technical design of nuclear submarine project 885M;

11.5 billion rubles. - A contract with JSC "Admiralty Shipyards" to build a rescue vessel , "Igor Belousov," Project 21 300 (originally planned to build a 6 ​​billion rubles.)

4 billion rubles. - A contract with JSC "Northern Design Bureau" for the development of reduced technical modernization project of the heavy nuclear missile cruiser "Admiral Nakhimov" Project 11442;

3 billion rubles. - Additional agreement with "Center repair" asterisk "on average repair nuclear submarine strategic "Novomoskovsk" Project 667BDRM. Deputy Prime Minister and Chairman of the Military-Industrial Commission under the Government of Russia Sergey Ivanov said that the agreements signed within the framework of the customers and performers of defense contracts will be able to enter into contracts already from December 1. The contract is for a few years - until 2016. "This year alone, defense companies will receive more than 10 billion rubles", - said Ivanov. According to the press service of the government in 2011-2020 on the weapons program years to complete re-equipment of the Navy Russia laid about 4.7 trillion rubles. current 2010 for new shipbuilding, ship repair and maintenance of ships in the federal budget includes more than 85 billion rubles in 2012 - more than 93 billion rubles.
zhyuli 发表于 2011-11-10 21:02 | 显示全部楼层
这叫项目带动——就是在缺少投资和积累的情况下,靠项目资金完成关键技术的突破和相关基础设施的投资,不是很好的办法,但是可以作为应急的办法。

点评

大锅, 人家是开放式股份公司。 研究经费目前都是包含在合同价格里面的。 合同里面同时包括技术要求。 不是俄科学院的所有制性质。  发表于 2011-11-10 22:03
JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2011-11-11 07:57 | 显示全部楼层
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/g ... _Class_Nuclear_Subs

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Russia Orders Five Yasen Class Nuclear Subs


Russia announced plans to build five nuclear submarines and made $9 billion worth of orders for the navy on Wednesday as part of an ambitious program to modernize its army and fleet spearheaded by Prime Minister Vladimir Putin.

Putin, who will seek his third term as president next year, visited Alexander Nevsky, the new Borei class nuclear submarine, which will carry Bulava intercontinental missiles, and attended the signing ceremony at the Sevmash shipyard on the White Sea.

“I am sure that realization of this unprecedented program, both in terms of its goals and financial resources, will enable us to carry out a large scale modernization of our army and fleet,” Putin told a meeting of government officials at Sevmash.

The contracts, whose details are sketchy, envisage construction of five Yasen class submarines, a Sevmash official who declined to be identified told Reuters. The cost of one Yasen submarine is estimated at $1.3 billion.

Yasen is bigger than Borei, whose cost is estimated at $759 million. It is armed with cruise missiles and does not carry long-range ballistic missiles such as Bulava which fall under international arms reduction treaties.

No contracts for construction of Borei class submarines were signed on Wednesday. The spokesman for state-run United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC), of which Sevmash is part, said there were ongoing discussions over the price.

Russia successfully test-fired a Bulava missile last month from another Borei class submarine, Yuri Dolgorukiy. The missile failed seven of the previous 14 tests, raising doubts over Russia’s plan to upgrade its nuclear deterrent.

The missile is not yet ready to go into serial production.

After a sharp drop in military spending in the 1990s, Russia plans to spend 20 trillion rubles ($653 billion) before 2020 to modernize its military with the quarter of the amount assigned to upgrading the navy.

Putin is also seeking to boost growth in non-energy sectors through reviving the Soviet military industrial complex, whose remnants have now been merged into large state-owned conglomerates such as USC, United Aviation Corporation and Russian Technologies.

Putin called on arms makers to cut costs and improve quality in response to complaints from the Defense Ministry.

Putin said the government is ready to guarantee the arms makers up to 35 percent returns, unprecedented for the industry, provided that some of the proceeds are re-invested.
JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2011-11-16 09:16 | 显示全部楼层
这一篇文章可以参考看一下, 不错。



Russia’s Submarine Modernization Program

11/14/2011 by Dr. Richard Weitz
The Russian government is turning its attention to revitalizing Russia’s fleet of cruise-missile and multi-purpose attack submarines.
They are able to do so with the apparent completion of Russia’s fourth-generation Project Mk 955 Borey-class nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine and its new RSM-56 Bulava (NATO code name SS-NX-30) Submarine Launched Ballistic Missile (SLBM).
***But the production of cruise-missile and multi-purpose attack submarines has fared even worse than Russia’s strategic nuclear submarines, leaving the Russian Navy with 8 attack su********bmarines designed to engage other ships and 19 submarines designed to attack land-based targets with cruise missiles. Though still functional, they will soon reach the end of their designated lifespan since they were constructed during the 1980s and 1990s.
Without urgent corrective measures, Russia’s submarine fleet could decline to fewer than 20 operational ships in a few years. Vice Admiral Oleg Bertsev, First Deputy of the Naval General Staff, has said that the Russian Navy needs between 40 and 50 nuclear-powered submarines to counter the submarines of Western nations. The United States currently has some 60 active submarines, though many of the Ohio class SSBNs will need to be replaced in coming decades. Many of the Russian submarines currently in service could continue operating until 2020 if their reactor cores are preserved due to their low level of operation. But eventually they must be retired and replaced.
The focus of the Russian submarine replacement effort is now on the new Project 885 Yasen (NATO code name Graney) class nuclear-powered multipurpose attack submarine.
Being a multipurpose ship, it fulfills two roles– that of traditional attack submarines and that of Russia’s cruise missile submarines.As an attack submarine it would replace the Akula attack submarines, and as a cruise missile vessel it would replace the Oscar II class ships. Although work started on the first Severodvinsk in 1993, with a planned launch for 1998, financial considerations halted work for most of the 1990s. Construction resumed in 2000 but delays in production continued due to financial problems as well as technical updates and modifications. The submarine was then scheduled to launch on May 7, 2010 to mark Victory Day over Nazi Germany. However, technical problems delayed the date again to June 15, when President Medvedev attended the launching ceremony.
The Severodvinsk is named after the city in which it was built. Designed by the Malakhit Design Bureau and built by Sevmash Shipyard in the northern Russia city of Severodvinsk , the boat has a double hall and a single shaft. It is 120 meters long with ten compartments. The Severodvinsk displaces 9,700 tons on the surface and 13,700 tons when submerged. It has a maximum speed of 31 knots when submerged. The submarine is equipped with mines, torpedoes, 24 long-range cruise missiles for attacking distant targets, and short-range anti-ship missiles. The torpedoes are launched through eight 533 mm and 650 mm torpedo tubes, while the cruise missiles are launched via eight vertical launch tubes. The cruise missiles include the 3M51 Alfa SLCM, the SS-NX-26 Oniks SLCM and the SS-N-21 Granat/Sampson SLCM cruise missiles, and the SS-N-16 Stallion anti-ship missile. They can be armed with conventional or nuclear warheads and have ranges up to 5,000 kilometers (3,100 miles). It has a 85 member crew, suggesting a high degree of automation.
The Severodvinsk recently began trials in the White Sea. The success of these sea trials will determine how soon the boat enters service. During its first underway period from September 12 to October 5, the Severodvinsk accomplished 80 percent of its assigned tasks while observers identified only minor problems with the ship’s performance. The official expectation is that the submarine will join the fleet this year, but according to Konstantin Makiyenko, deputy director of the Moscow-based Centre for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, it could be three to five years before it is ready. The second Yasen submarine, the Kazan, was laid down in July 2009 and is currently under construction. It is expected to have more advanced equipment than the Severodvinsk and to enter service in 2015.
JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2011-11-16 09:17 | 显示全部楼层
接上楼

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Russian articles claim the Severodvinsk will be the quietest submarine in the world. The boat reportedly has new communications, navigation, and nuclear power systems as well as extensive noise reduction and stealth features. Western nuclear submarines have tended to be quieter than Soviet and Russian nuclear designs and Western experts have predicted that it will only be slightly quieter than the Akula class. The Severodvinsk is also reportedly the first Russian submarine with its torpedo tubes amidship to make way a new bow-mounted advanced sonar system.The Yasen’s long-range cruise missiles lead some to see it as a “carrier killer.” These SLCMs can be armed with nuclear warheads. Russian naval strategists see tactical nuclear warheads as helping to compensate for the inferior size of the Russian fleet as compared with the U.S. Navy. A tactical nuclear warhead could destroy an entire carrier task force group in seconds, which is beyond the capacity of Russia’s conventional weapons.
Russian policy makers would naturally worry about such a conflict escalating to further nuclear exchanges, but the advantage of using a nuclear warhead against an ocean-going target is that the number of civilian casualties would be minimized and a clear firebreak would be retained since the adversary’s national territory would not be directly affected by the nuclear blast.
But another mission for the Yasen submarines could be defending Russia’s extensive claims over the natural resources on the floor of the Arctic Ocean, which the Russian government has declared as part of its continental shelf. With its long-range cruise missiles and other weapons systems, the Severodvinsk would be able to defend large areas of the Arctic Ocean from a distance.
The Yasen boats will probably be assigned to the larger Northern and Pacific Fleets due to their size, capabilities, and cost. Its advantages — long endurance, stealth, and cruise missiles—could be used more effectively in a larger body of water.
Originally, the Soviet Navy wanted a total of 30 Yasen class submarines, but the Russian government only recently committed in the 2007-2015 SAP to buy two Yasen vessels, the Severodvinsk and the Kazan. In March 2011, an unnamed senior Navy official said that the service planned to acquire as many as ten Yasen class ships by 2020.
Since then, the rising cost of the Severodvinsk class ships as well as tight funding has led many defense experts to urge the Russian Navy to find a cheaper replacement for its retiring current generation of submarines. The cost of the first Severodvinsk class boat is $1.7 billion, but the shipyard, Sevmash, was seeking to charge the Navy three times as much for the second boat, justifying the increase on inflationary trends in the defense industry related to rising prices for materials, energy, and “monopolistic” subcontractors “trying to dictate prices.”
In early November 2011, the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC) and the Russian Defense Ministry resolved their price dispute for the Yasen and Borey class nuclear-powered submarines. The Ministry agreed that in the future USC could select its own subcontractors rather than the Defense Ministry.
Even if all ten Yasen submarines were built, they would not provide enough boats to replace all the Russian attack submarines that will retire in coming years. Some defense analysts suggest that Russia discontinue production of the Yasen boats after the Kazan, the second ship in the class, and then build less capable but less expensive submarines. The U.S. Navy pursued such a policy when it discontinued the building of the Sea Wolf class and began building the more economical Virginia class attack submarines.
The Russian Navy still has several types of multi-purpose submarines inherited from the Soviet period. These include eight Oscar II class cruise missile submarines. They are armed with P-700 Granit cruise missiles designed to attack U.S. Navy carrier task forces. They may be armed with newer cruise missiles that could allow them to attack land-based targets. The Navy also has four Victor III and three Sierra attack submarines.
The eight Akula submarines are mainly assigned to Russia’s Northern Fleet. Although the Soviet government began working on the more advanced Akula II type ship in the early 1990s, the post-Soviet collapse meant it was not until 2007 that the Russian government found sufficient funds to resume development work, starting in October 2008, to begin sea trials of the vessel.
The Russian Navy only began receiving delivery of the first of its eight planned new Lada class diesel submarines in 2010, whose construction began over a decade ago. Developed by the Rubin Design Bureau, this new type Project 677 diesel submarine reportedly operates more quietly than the venerable Russian Kilo-class diesel-eclectic submarine, which it will replace.
The Lada also has a longer operational range than the Kilos, which were constructed in the 1980s, and more advanced anti-ship weaponry. The Russian Navy wants to have eight Lada submarines by 2020, and more later, but problems with the propulsions systems used by the first vessel of this class, the St. Petersburg, have delayed completion of the other two ships whose construction has already begun.
As an interim measure, the Navy is building six new improved Kilos based on a vessel that was previously only sold to other countries (such as China). They are supposed to join the Black Sea Fleet in a few years. The Black Sea Fleet, based in Sevastopol, currently has a single Project 877 Alrosa submarine. The Navy also plans to provide the Black Sea Fleet, whose operational zone incudes the Mediterranean Sea and the Gulf of Aden, with new frigates for possible use against pirates and to establish a permanent presence in the Indian Ocean.
StarDreadnought 发表于 2011-11-16 13:06 | 显示全部楼层
有3M51 Alfa的资料么?是不是Club?
JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2011-11-16 13:29 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 JSTCVW09CD 于 2011-11-16 13:34 编辑
StarDreadnought 发表于 2011-11-16 13:06
有3M51 Alfa的资料么?是不是Club?

也在查想了解一下, 这个上面是这么说的: http://www.deagel.com/Land-Attac ... M51_a002397001.aspx



另外对那个5000公里的巡航弹比较感兴趣。
JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2011-11-16 16:25 | 显示全部楼层
http://www.rusnews.cn/eguoxinwen ... 11116/43214426.html

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消息人士:亚历山大·涅夫斯基号核潜艇未来三天试航

俄新网RUSNEWS.CN北德文斯克11月16日电 俄罗斯白海海军基地消息人士16日向俄新社表示,第一艘量产战略核潜艇“亚历山大·涅夫斯基”号将在未来三天前往白海进行第二阶段试航。

他说:“目前这艘核潜艇做好充分准备在海上完成测试航行质量、机动性和通讯的任务。”
JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2011-11-17 20:36 | 显示全部楼层
Sevmash plans to sign series Borey nuclear submarine contract

17.11.2011
                                                       
Sevmash plans it will make in the first quarter of 2012 a contract to build a series of Borey-project nuclear submarines, Andrey Dyachkov, director general of Sevmash, said. The lead ship in this project, the Dmitry Donskoy, has already been tested but has not yet entered service with the second ship undergoing tests and the third one being at the completion phase.

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第三艘北风级接近完工。

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估计是新闻写错了。  发表于 2011-11-17 22:43
Dmitry Donskoy不是北风级,而是台风级,新闻搞错了吧。  发表于 2011-11-17 22:04
StarDreadnought 发表于 2011-11-18 22:00 | 显示全部楼层
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我这里有点讲Alfa的片段,内容概括如下
1、不是3M51Club家族的货,虽然是一个设计局的
2、冲压发动机,三角翼,翼面可折叠,翼身一定程度融合,X型尾舵
3、一定的隐身设计,光滑外表,S型进气管
4、能够用Su27IB发射,每机两发,配合海龙火控系统使用
在95年莫斯科航展上展出全尺寸模型
以上摘自Sergei Moroz& Sergei Popsuevich写的一本苏联远程和海军航空兵导弹,在搜索引擎上可以用图解苏联反舰导弹作关键字找到,书里有张木头模型图和一张想象图

个人判断:尺寸应该小于SS-N-26,未发展到完成阶段
但是那篇文章里写的应该是Club
StarDreadnought 发表于 2011-11-18 22:06 | 显示全部楼层
5000公里的巡航导弹我也不知道是啥,反正3M24从来没试射成功过、那么大体积走高空丢核弹的东西现在也没实际意义。Kh55变体看俄国给他加保型油箱的样子也不像能进一步加大油箱。
JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2011-11-18 22:54 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 JSTCVW09CD 于 2011-11-18 22:55 编辑
StarDreadnought 发表于 2011-11-18 22:06
5000公里的巡航导弹我也不知道是啥,反正3M24从来没试射成功过、那么大体积走高空丢核弹的东西现在也没实际 ...

陆地上的将近3000公里的巡航弹SSC-X-4在80年代就有了。

后来被80年代末的反导条约给销毁了。


原则上发展5000公里的巡航弹, 也没有什么特别的。


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