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[军事专题] 俄军事改革和国防预算专题---国防采购系统改革

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xeno 发表于 2012-2-3 10:48 | 显示全部楼层
“yuhouwucaihong  上次还出现了一个赤道几内亚的英国造护卫舰,不过武器是毛子的AK176和AK630  ”
小彩虹,这个故事的来龙去脉我很有兴趣的搞了个明明白白,
这是一条穿着英国马甲的土耳其公司运作的,由乌克兰设计的,在保加利亚秘密生产的,伪装成卖给立陶宛公司的使用乌克兰库存火炮的很漂亮的轻型巡逻舰。
这个帖子里就不谈了。

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插咧,这么复杂的身世啊  发表于 2012-2-3 13:58
zhyuli 发表于 2012-2-3 12:34 | 显示全部楼层
转自CD 恳请LZ驳斥

传送门http://lt.cjdby.net/thread-1320480-1-1.html

俄罗斯副总理德米特里·罗戈津2日发表声明说,2011年俄罗斯军舰和潜水艇的建造数量缩减幅度同比超过15%。

罗戈津在俄海军未来发展会议上发表讲话说:“国防订单框架内制造军舰的支出在1067亿卢布,但比2010年减少15.7%。”
他指出,整体上船舶制造领域的产量大幅下降,降幅16.2%,总额为2115亿卢布。
他还说,俄罗斯海军在数量上已经接近能够执行战斗任务的最低限度。他说:“有必要立即更新海军的舰队组成。”

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而且我请求您驳斥,又没有要求您承认,您干吗顾左右而言他呢??  发表于 2012-2-3 12:55
我找过了,阁下没有发过这个帖子,另外的网友倒是发过,但是在我们发这些帖子之前,lz并没有发过,不算违规吧,当然你有证据说明您早就发过这个帖子了,可以拿出来,我道歉...  发表于 2012-2-3 12:53
另外, 对于这种回复发帖的方式, 反应了乃心态的。 没必要, 这里不是用这种方式发帖的地方。   发表于 2012-2-3 12:47
第一, 这个已经在相关的帖子里面发了N遍了,乃属于重复发帖。 第二, 乃发错地方了。 第三,没必要引用CD的链接。----蛋要定, 才能神定。 吼吼.....   发表于 2012-2-3 12:46
xeno 发表于 2012-2-3 13:04 | 显示全部楼层
楼主没有任何义务对每一条新闻作出评论,也没有义务回应任何人提出作出评论要求。
 楼主| JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2012-2-3 13:20 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 JSTCVW09CD 于 2012-2-10 11:39 编辑

http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20120202/554737188.html

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空降兵已经完成全面转换到Glonass导航系统。


2012年开始全面配备电子地形图。


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Airborne troops have done transition over to the Russian GLONASS - Ministry of Defence


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MOSCOW, February 2 - RIA Novosti. Airborne Troops (VDV) of Russia is fully transferred to the Russian navigation system GLONASS, told RIA Novosti on Thursday, a representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, Major Airborne Irina Kruglov.

Formerly head of the military topographic control of the General Staff, Rear Admiral Sergei Kozlov said the GLONASS system, which has been successfully implemented in the army, its characteristics have almost caught up with the American GPS and other global counterparts.

"During 2010-2011, received equipment of satellite navigation (ACH) and GLONASS augmentation means in volumes, fully satisfy the current demand," - said Kruglov.

At the same time representative of the Ministry of Defence explained that during the 2012 Airborne Troops will receive a new individual (wear) ACH with the prospect of downloading electronic topographic maps, it will allow a more qualitative assess the situation and the target areas.

The range of ACh available at the Navy arsenal, now consists of eight different versions of high-tech equipment, new weapons and military equipment supplied to the troops now with built-in navigation equipment (Ammunition capacity satellite navigation built into the objects of armament and military equipment in its production), explained the source agency.

"The technology, already in operation in 2011 held steady replacement of obsolete navigation equipment with more modern individual (portable) navigation systems GLONASS kits" - added the major.

These products are used to automatically determine the current coordinates of the place, time and ground speed signals to the consumer's GLONASS satellite navigation systems, as well as for performing calculations in preparation for firing and fire control in the artillery units.

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ajun5118 发表于 2012-2-3 13:20 | 显示全部楼层
zhyuli 发表于 2012-2-3 12:34
转自CD 恳请LZ驳斥

传送门http://lt.cjdby.net/thread-1320480-1-1.html

应该是和去年国防订单签订的时间过迟有关,许多大单直到年底才签订。

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欢迎到航天港来....  发表于 2012-2-3 13:53
yuhouwucaihong 发表于 2012-2-3 14:04 | 显示全部楼层
zhyuli 发表于 2012-2-3 12:34
转自CD 恳请LZ驳斥

传送门http://lt.cjdby.net/thread-1320480-1-1.html

建造量这个词很奇怪,不知道是指开工量还是完成量还是别的神马
但是如果说是下水的数量2010年的确要比2011年高很多,2010年下水了两条塔尔瓦一条22350一条北风之神,2011年却没有下水任何4000吨位的舰艇,2011年下水一艘20380二艘猎豹,2011年只有一艘20380一艘猎豹,其他更小的就不说了。另外因为给印度的订单已经完成了,现在塔尔瓦只是在实验,琥珀船厂的订单就少了,第二第三条自用版11356是去年签订的,但其中第三条的合同是是月份左右才签订的,不知道有没算进去
 楼主| JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2012-2-3 23:10 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 JSTCVW09CD 于 2012-2-4 10:47 编辑

俄总统:国家国防定购竞标应在4月15日前完成

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戈尔基2月3日电 俄罗斯总统梅德韦杰夫要求在政府主管国防工业系统的副总理罗戈津认真监督国家国防定购的落实,并在4月15日前完成所有竞标。

梅德韦杰夫会见罗戈津时说:“按照现有规定,那些发给唯一供货商的采购订单应在3月1日前完成,而其它竞标活动应该在4月15日前举行。我请您根据这些期限监督这些程序,不要拖延。”

他说,国防工业综合体企业的技术改造是关键任务之一。他补充说:“应该关注产品质量,不让国防部与相关生产商之间闹矛盾。”

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The placement of defense contracts last year “was far from perfect, to put it mildly,” Medvedev said.


 楼主| JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2012-2-3 23:37 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 JSTCVW09CD 于 2012-2-4 10:47 编辑

http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20120203/171116646.html
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军队推进职业化改革的结果

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北方舰队水面舰只的首次--库拉科夫号驱逐舰实现了100%职业化军人配置。


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(潜艇舰队比这更早地开始实现100%的职业化军人配置)

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Northern Fleet Warship Gets First Volunteer-Only Crew

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A surface warship in Russia’s Northern Fleet has for the first time achieved 100-percent manning by contract servicemen, a Western Military District spokesman said on Friday.

There are no conscripts aboard the Vice Admiral Kulakov Udaloy-class destroyer, Captain 1st Rank Vadim Serga said.
Contract servicemen are paid on average 60,000 rubles (about $2,000) a month, he added.

President Dmitry Medvedev earlier said there should be 425,000 contract soldiers in the Armed Forces by 2017, a little less than 50 percent of total manpower.

Submarines started using 100-percent contract personnel earlier.

 楼主| JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2012-2-4 09:53 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 JSTCVW09CD 于 2012-2-4 10:48 编辑

http://en.rian.ru/analysis/20120203/171119218.html

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这个俄新社军事评论员文章写得不错, 值得一看。

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The Russian Navy Grows from Bottom up

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While the nation’s leaders work at overhauling the Navy organization, the Navy itself continues to order new ships. Last year’s persistent scandals over nuclear submarine contracts proved a hard nut to crack when assigning government contracts in 2011. For a time, the submarine scandals confused the process for ordering surface ships. Meanwhile the focus there is being shifted to the production of time tested projects built around today’s armaments.
“Due to the lack of funding, the Navy has come close to a numerical minimum required to fulfill its mission,” Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said at a meeting with the heads of the Sevmash and Zvezdochka shipyards, and the Navy command. The meeting was called to discuss the development of Russia’s Navy.
The deputy prime minister said many ships are being used beyond their service life and the Russian Navy needs urgent renovation. “The now widespread practice of rebuilding and renovating the fleet ship by ship to extend its service life has destroyed our production cooperation,” Rogozin said.
Building quietly and stubbornly
Still, it’s inaccurate to say that only one-off vessels are being constructed. Last Wednesday, two ships were laid down in St. Petersburg: the Project 22350 Admiral Golovko frigate and the Project 20385 Gremyashchy corvette.
The Golovko is the third vessel in the Project 22350 class. The first one – Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Gorshkov – hit the water in October 2010 and the second (Admiral of the Fleet Kasatonov) is scheduled to be launched this year. The Gremyashchy is formally the first Project 20385 ship, but it is a further development of Projects 20380 and 20381 corvettes, two of which have already joined the Baltic Fleet, with one more undergoing trials and another under construction. Current contracts provide for the building of eight Project 22350 frigates (including the Gorshkov and the Kasatonov) and eight Project 20385 corvettes (the Gremyashchy will be the first).
What are we building?
The Russian Navy is not obsessed with grand-scale projects or the “de facto global standard” – strike groups of heavy ocean-going ships deployed around nuclear aircraft carriers. Even at its height the Soviet Union failed to live up to that standard with reasons ranging from weaknesses in industry and ship repair facilities to the varying rants of top military and defense industry leadership.
The Russian Navy orders simple and ordinary workhorses for the sea. When a large number of ships was decommissioned in the 1990s (the non-strategic portion), it left a big gap in the country’s naval forces.
The commissioning of single surface vessels for each main class (like the Pyotr Veliky in 1996) did little to prevent the overall degradation of Russia’s four fleets.
Project 20380/20385 corvettes (or more precisely, multi-role short range escort vessels) are intended to close the gap in the coastal defense forces.
Project 22350 frigates (multi-role offshore patrol vessels) are believed to be the core of Russia’s new Navy now. In the early 2000s, when this project was accepted as promising, the number of vessels to be built was 30. It is difficult to appraise such Napoleonic plans, but the approach has not changed: the volume of construction anticipated is up to 20 units over the next 15 to 20 years.
Next in line is the development and construction of ocean-going destroyers. A competition is currently under way for the best project. These ships need to be large enough and well-armed. They will be in fact missile cruisers rather than destroyers. The Navy is growing “from the bottom up” as it tries out new directions and unifies the armaments on its new vessels.
Roman Trotsenko, the head of United Shipbuilding Corporation, who touts the new shipyards at Kotlin Island, regularly promotes the idea of a nuclear aircraft carrier. The military is cautious: it says the State Armaments Program till 2020 does not mention an aircraft carrier. Yet it has launched a series of research and development projects just in case to determine the role and place of such ships in the Navy of the future.


 楼主| JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2012-2-4 09:56 | 显示全部楼层
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JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2012-2-4 09:53
http://en.rian.ru/analysis/20120203/171119218.html

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Marine standard
The tendency of the Russian military to save costs and unify the fleet’s missiles is worth a separate comment. In the Soviet days, the Navy went on a spree of producing “unique” strike missile systems with incompatible launchers and missiles. In each case the adoption of one or another system was absolutely justified by tasks at hand. But it all produced a monstrous zoo full of combat weapons in the Navy. The defense industry, accustomed to spending freely, also lent a hand: sometimes military experts, who were practically-minded, combined a new missile with an old launcher. The result was self-evident.
Take, for example, the saga of Project 670 and 670M submarines, which were to be equipped with one missile system (there were plans to arm older submarines with the new Malakhit missile with an extended range). The upshot, however, was that each project retained its original armaments – until the boats were decommissioned in the early 1990s.
But times change and the money, not a lot even in the glorious era of Fleet Admiral Sergei Gorshkov, came to an end. The concept of a multi-purpose ship firing system became overriding: all ships in the basic classes – including Projects 20385 and 22350 and their likely cousins (ocean-going destroyers) – are now to be equipped this way.
In effect, it is a group of unified vertical launchers which offer a wide range of configurations. A ship equipped with this multi-purpose system can carry anti-ship Oniks cruise missiles or missiles from the all-purpose Kalibr system (in three configurations: supersonic anti-ship, subsonic for engaging ground targets and anti-submarine). Future plans contemplate extending this armory by including surface-to-air missiles, although for the time being the new system is employed only in strike systems.
The West will help us
The delay in commissioning Project 22350 vessels (the first ship was laid down in 2006) suggested a simple solution. It was decided that the amount of time needed to start the construction Gorshkov class ships could also be spent on a simultaneous commissioning of Project 1135.7 frigates.
This frigate is a very interesting ship. It is based on Project 1135.6 – a distant descendant of Soviet Project 1135 patrol ships developed for the Indian Navy (known as Talwar-type frigates). The Baltic shipyard has already delivered the first three vessels of this class to India. Three more are under construction at the Yantar shipyard in Kaliningrad.
The Russian Navy, which badly needs new ships, has requested a “domestic” version of the Talwar, code-named 1135.7 instead. The projects turned out to be so similar that many systems adopted for the 1135.7 turned out to be systems developed for overseas customers and until recently they lacked the authorization for use in the Russian Armed Forces.
The Russian Navy has now placed orders for six Project 1135.7 frigates with Yantar. Two of them are already laid down: the Admiral Grigorovich in December 2010 and the Admiral Essen in July 2011. For 2012, plans call for the start of two or three more ships, and one or two in 2013.
But the feeling is that six frigates are not the limit: Project 22350 is costly and needs to be brought up to date. The current brass, badly shaken by the 1990s disaster, is holding to the maxim: “If it works, don’t fix it.” So if the 1135.7 is accepted by the Navy, a large series will be built – perhaps in an upgraded configuration.
This will be the Russian surface fleet for the 21st century: tight-fisted, pragmatic and knowing its limits. Public opinion seems abashed to see its military in this light – but it will have to get used to it.

The views expressed in this article are the author’s and do not necessarily represent those of RIA Novosti.
xeno 发表于 2012-2-4 10:32 | 显示全部楼层
颜色很不舒服。
lxf11711 发表于 2012-2-5 13:11 | 显示全部楼层
JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2012-2-3 13:20
http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20120202/554737188.html

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这个其实可以考虑移到陆军那个贴子里。。。或者开空降兵的专贴
lxf11711 发表于 2012-2-5 13:12 | 显示全部楼层
罗戈津就俄军工综合体生产能力的声明进行说明
俄新网RUSNEWS.CN莫斯科2月3日电 俄罗斯负责军事工业综合体的副总理德米特里•罗戈津在推特上发文,对昨天发表的有关国防工业综合体从2013年起有能力制造多艘潜水艇的声明进行了说明。

此前有报道称,罗戈津3日在北德文斯克发表讲话时说,到今年年底,俄罗斯国防工业综合体将扩大生产能力,未来每年可建造一艘航空母舰和六艘潜艇,包括战略核潜艇和柴油电力潜艇。

罗戈津对推特上的一条评价这样回复:“不是扯淡,我说的是今年我们将完成‘戈尔什科夫海军上将'号航母的修复工作,并且建造或修复6艘潜艇。”
http://rusnews.cn/eguoxinwen/eluosi_anquan/20120203/43315185.html
lxf11711 发表于 2012-2-5 13:13 | 显示全部楼层
罗戈津:叶卡捷琳堡号核潜艇修复费用将达5亿卢布
俄新网RUSNEWS.CN北德文斯克2月3日电 俄罗斯副总理德米特里·罗戈津表示,失火的“叶卡捷琳堡”号核潜艇的修复费用将超5亿卢布。

11月29日,正在摩尔曼斯克州罗斯利亚科沃镇82号修船厂进行计划内维修的“叶卡捷琳堡”号核潜艇起火。初步调查显示,潜艇周围的木制脚手架着火并蔓延至轻量级外壳。起火面积达150平方米,大火直到30日才彻底扑灭。

罗戈津对记者说:“我们需花费5亿卢布来修复核潜艇。”

俄罗斯联合造船公司此前表示,“叶卡捷琳堡”号核潜艇的修复和现代化改造费用将达6-9亿卢布。媒体也推断说,修复费用将超过10亿卢布。
http://rusnews.cn/eguoxinwen/eluosi_anquan/20120203/43314028.html
北极睿熊 发表于 2012-2-5 16:18 | 显示全部楼层
有没有人能把上面 英文翻译一下  

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直接GOOGLE嘛。。。  发表于 2012-2-5 16:23
 楼主| JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2012-2-6 15:40 | 显示全部楼层
http://www.rusnews.cn/eguoxinwen ... 20206/43318073.html

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俄副防长不排除增加国家核潜力的可能性

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莫斯科2月6日电 俄罗斯国防部副部长、俄美削减进攻性战略武器条约谈判参与者阿纳托利·安东诺夫在接受《生意人报》采访时表示,由于核扩散带来的新挑战,俄罗斯将来可能不会缩减,反而会被迫增加核武器。

他称:“新的挑战不断出现,包括导弹与核扩散带来的挑战。看看中东局势多么不稳定,因此俄罗斯军事学说规定在个别情况下使用核武器。我不排除情况的发展会迫使我们不缩减,而是增加核武器。”

安东诺夫认为谈论世界无核化为时过早。他指出,目前核威慑力的构想是必需的。

安东诺夫进一步指出:“我国领导人努力在信任、相互尊重和发展伙伴关系等原则的基础上构建关系。但我国的核盾牌应该随时做好准备对可能来自第三国的威胁做出反应。当然,没有核武器的生活非常好,但是推进世界无核化需要逐步进行,为此创造条件。”

在谈到俄罗斯受到的主要威胁时,他提到了导弹防御系统问题,并称正是美国在增加反导潜力。

安东诺夫还证实,俄罗斯与美国的反导谈判陷入僵局。他说,美国的合作建议不具体,俄罗斯参加欧洲导弹防御系统的可能性问题“甚至没有讨论”。


shaolin1254 发表于 2012-2-7 22:57 | 显示全部楼层
俄罗斯改革2012年武器装备供应模式

原载:俄罗斯《俄罗斯报》2012年1月25日
网址:http://www.rg.ru/2012/01/25/oborona.html
作者:尤里•加夫里洛夫(Юрий Гаврилов)
俄罗斯《俄罗斯报》2012年1月25日消息,1月24日,俄罗斯国防部第一副部长亚历山大•苏霍鲁科夫介绍说了2012年军队武器装备供应模式。
鉴于往年的惨痛教训,俄罗斯军方提前展开2012年国家国防订货的安排工作。但同时,国防部要求未来的伙伴们仔细论证最终产品的价格。同时,为了支持企业,军方已于去年采取了史无前例的步骤。100%的预付款项将划拨给军队武库最需要的合同的执行者。目前这一做法已经扩展到2012年国防订货框架内的272项任务。
俄国防部希望,新模式的清晰性和透明性能有助于完成主要任务——用三年的时间让现代化武器装备在军队中的比重达到30%。而到2020年前在常规部队中达到60-70%,在三体一体核力量中达到70-80%。
军队大规模的换装要求国防工业领域采用不同的游戏规则。首先,这涉及到所签合同的持续时间。现代化的导弹系统或新的核潜艇一两年内造不出来。科研调查、设计工作、而主要的——理顺新武器的批量生产都需要时间。因此军方开始签订为期不止3年的合同,个别类型的产品合同期到2018年甚至2020年。亚历山大•苏霍鲁科夫说,2012年长期合同占当年全部国防订货的一半以上。
国家将对生产者采取金融优惠和积极参加国防企业改造——为此将斥资约3万亿卢布。亚历山大•苏霍鲁科夫说,国防部正在国防工业综合体的结构中强制设立质量管理部门。如果企业没有这样的机构,它可能会失去执照。创新的意义在于使军事验收不再是手持鞭子的检查员。应该由生产者自己来对产品质量负责。不过,这不排除订货方的监督。
在国防合同中现在规定对不正当的执行者进行处罚。从今年起这样的生产者将由行政违法法典的新条款来处罚——中断执行国防订货的企业将被罚款一百万卢布,如果过错方是自然人,则罚款5万卢布。此外,工厂或公司可能被列入所谓的黑名单——不正当供货者目录。其结果是禁止接受订货。
俄罗斯武装力量今年将接收哪些武器装备呢?军方没有公布完整的清单。但亚历山大•苏霍鲁科夫列举了一部分。例如,海军航空兵将接收28架米格-29K和米格-29KUB舰载战斗机;空军将继续采购雅克-130教练战斗机,将军们估计航空兵对该机的需求超过50架;此外,陆军航空兵将接收129架各型直升机;空天防御部队将接收一个营的S-400防空导弹系统。
亚历山大•苏霍鲁科夫提醒说:“去年12月完成了‘圆锤’海基导弹系统的国家试验,目前正在起草其列装海军的命令。至于‘圆锤’的采购,已经被写入2020年前的国家装备计划。”
根据《俄罗斯报》记者的请求,亚历山大•苏霍鲁科夫再次阐述了国防部在采购卡拉什尼科夫自动步枪问题上的立场。原来,早在两年前国防部就形成了自己对于新的轻武器——从手枪到榴弹发射器的要求。目前国防部正在资助该领域中的2项试验设计工作,结果要到2014年前才能出来。
苏霍鲁科夫还说,将在沃罗涅日成立一个联合企业,以意大利“依维柯”为原型组装装甲汽车。合同规定为陆军购买60辆这种装甲车。
至于其他的外国生装备的购买,国防部的立场没有改变——2012年将不会大规模采购国外装备。(知远/蓝山)
http://www.knowfar.org.cn/ezine/c_2012-01-31.htm#content749
 楼主| JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2012-2-8 20:59 | 显示全部楼层
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20120208/171214913.html

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Defense Ministry Drops Contracts for ‘Inferior’ Arms

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Substandard and uncertified models of arms and military equipment have been excluded from the 2012 state defense order, Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov said on Wednesday.
This refers to models whose “tests have not been completed or which do not meet the needs of the Armed Forces,” he said.
The list includes a variety of products such as armored fighting vehicles, mortars, self-propelled guns and personal gear and equipment worth hundreds of billions of rubles.
Defense Ministry officials have repeatedly criticized the deteriorating quality of products manufactured by domestic defense firms.
First Deputy Defense Minister Alexander Sukhorukov said in January that in 2010 the number of formal complaints filed against arms manufacturers was up 20 percent, exceeding 6,800, while in 2011 it rose to 7,100.

 楼主| JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2012-2-8 21:13 | 显示全部楼层
http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20120208/171214468.html

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这个是销毁过期武器的好东西。

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Army Introduces Ammo Destroyer

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The Russian military is introducing new technology for destroying obsolete ammunition, with the straightforwardly-named “Destroyer” set to replace the current dangerous practice of just blowing up old bombs and rockets, Rossiiskaya Gazeta said.

The Destroyer is a metal rod containing an incendiary mixture that is attached to an old military round and burns out the explosives inside it, the governmental daily said on Wednesday. The device is triggered by an electric discharge.
There’s no detonation or blast wave in the process. Not even much noise, just a pop on ignition,” Yevgeny Meshkov, a spokesman for the Central Military District, was cited as saying.

The Destroyer, developed by an unspecified enterprise in the Urals, passed testing and is being introduced throughout the military district, which houses dozens of arms depots, Meshkov said.

Curiously, the army would be paying for the Destroyers not with money, but with empty shells from ammunition rounds, which amount to tons of metal that can be sold or used for industrial purposes.

Two arms depots in the district blew up in separate incidents in 2011, pelting neighboring villages with tons of old ammunition rounds, which resulted in mass evacuations, massive damages and several deaths. The incidents – not the first, but the most spectacular of their kind in recent years – brought into spotlight the army’s obsolete technologies for destroying old ammo.

The Defense Ministry currently has 6 million tons of obsolete ammunition rounds in store and plans to destroy half of them by 2014. Some 160,000 tons of these would be undone using the Destroyer, Rossiiskaya Gazeta said.

 楼主| JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2012-2-8 21:21 | 显示全部楼层
http://www.rusnews.cn/eguoxinwen ... 20208/43322435.html

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《消息报》报道说,俄罗斯副总理德米特里·罗戈津召集为国防工业系统培养专家的高校校长讨论该领域问题。罗戈津说,为技术改装国防工业系统企业,2012-2014年将拨款4400亿卢布,但是国防企业丧失了人才潜力。
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