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[战略战术导弹] 7月23日反导试验照片

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poweru235 发表于 2017-7-26 22:12 | 显示全部楼层
vest 发表于 2017-7-25 03:57
为什么出现疑似命中的爆炸后,过了挺长一段时间又出现新的飞行弹道?第二枚穿过残骸区?

那只是滑行段 你看到的所谓爆炸 其实就是发动机在真空环境下工作的状态
hxsailor 发表于 2017-7-27 11:20 | 显示全部楼层
到底有没有打中,分析不出来吗?
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3431 发表于 2017-7-28 00:09 来自航空航天港手机版! | 显示全部楼层
hxsailor 发表于 2017-7-27 11:20
到底有没有打中,分析不出来吗?

分析出来别人就该拿我们的脑袋去领50万了……
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hxsailor 发表于 2017-7-28 10:23 | 显示全部楼层
打中的话肯定有人看到啊,那么明显的目标.
ysz 发表于 2017-7-29 03:31 | 显示全部楼层
终于有人发了,想请教各位,为什么在主轨迹停止后,又出现了两次伞状尾迹,而且方向都不同,最后也没出现爆炸,是咋回事呢?
zhh894217 发表于 2017-8-2 18:38 | 显示全部楼层

China Carries Out Flight Test of Anti-Satellite Missile
DN-3 missile highlights growing space warfare capabilities
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China's DN-3 Test

China's DN-3 Test

BY: Bill Gertz        Follow @BillGertz
August 2, 2017 5:00 am

China recently carried out a flight test of a new anti-satellite missile that highlights the growing threat of Beijing's space warfare capabilities.

The flight test of the Dong Neng-3 direct ascent missile was tracked by U.S. intelligence agencies on July 23 from China's Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center in Inner Mongolia, in northwestern China, said U.S. defense officials familiar with reports of the launch.

The officials said the launch was not successful and the DN-3 appeared to malfunction in the upper atmosphere after the launch at night.

The launch took place after Chinese authorities posted a notice to airlines to avoid flying near the flight path of the missile. The missile's flight was captured in photographs and video by several Chinese internet users near the Jiuquan facility.

Despite the failure, China's space warfare program is said to be advancing rapidly as an asymmetric warfare weapon that will allow a less capable Chinese military to defeat the U.S. military in a future conflict.

The Pentagon's annual report on the Chinese military states that in December the Chinese created a new Strategic Support Force that will unify space, cyber, and electronic warfare capabilities.

"The PLA continues to strengthen its military space capabilities despite its public stance against the militarization of space, " the report said.

Air Force Gen. John E. Hyten, commander of the U.S. Strategic Command and a space warfare expert, said both China and Russia are advancing space-war fighting capabilities.

"China right now is ahead of Russia because they've been on a consistent path for a longer time," Hyten said in an interview in Omaha last week.

Hyten said the U.S. military currently has a "very robust space capability."

"And the threats that we face are actually very small," he said.

However, the significant U.S. advantage in space is eroding and satellites are becoming more vulnerable to attack.

"We have very old space capabilities too, very effective space capabilities, but they are very old and not built for a contested environment," he said.

The space warfare threat is "a much nearer-term issue for the commander after me, and for the commander after that person, it will be more significant because the gap is narrowing quickly and we have got to move quickly to respond to it," Hyten said.

In addition to several direct-ascent anti-satellite missiles, China is developing ground-based lasers that can blind or damage orbiting satellites, as well as small robot satellites that can maneuver, grab, and destroy orbiting satellites.

Asked how to deal with China's space warfare threats, Hyten said: "It's not very complicated. You treat it as a war-fighting domain. And when you do that, the answers are not that complicated. You have to have increased maneuver capabilities on our satellites. We have to have defensive capabilities to defend ourselves. These are just war fighting problems."

Hyten said space defense requires moving much faster than current acquisitions processes in the Pentagon and military have allowed, something that is hindering the overall modernization of U.S. nuclear forces.

"So it goes back to the same question we talked about on the nuclear modernization piece: Can we go fast enough as a nation to stay ahead of our adversaries. We have to go fast," he said.

In opening remarks to a Stratcom conference on deterrence, Hyten said the military is ready to respond to attacks in space.

"We'll provide strategic deterrence [in space]," he said. "If deterrence fails, we’ll provide a decisive response."

Adversaries are planning to use an array of strategic weapons, whether nuclear or conventional forces, or space and cyber forces.

"Mass disruption to our power grid, to our financial institutions with cyber-attacks or space attacks are now constant concerns," Hyten said. "And our potential adversaries study this as well, learning from us. Demonstrating an advanced understanding of how to leverage nuclear, space, cyber, anti-access/area denial, electronic warfare, the information spectrum to exploit our vulnerabilities."

The U.S. military does not have a deployed anti-satellite missile. However, in 2008 the military used a modified SM-3 anti-missile interceptor to shoot down a falling intelligence satellite as it reentered the atmosphere. The operation, code-named Burnt Frost, showed that the Pentagon could rapidly retool for anti-satellite warfare. The operation came a year after China's major anti-satellite test on the weather satellites.

The Air Force also developed the ASM-135 during the 1980s. The anti-satellite missile was launched from an F-15 jet.

Congress banned anti-satellite missile tests against targets in space in 1985.
Michael J. Listner, a space expert, said the latest DN-3 test shows China is developing space weaponry while pursuing soft power initiatives aimed at banning such arms.

"It's unclear when such a system will become operational, but the question remains once its ASAT reaches operational capability whether current strategies to ‘deter' the use of ASATs will be effective, to include the idea of resilience to discourage interference," said Listner, head of the company Space Law and Policy Solutions.
"It is clear like the situation in the South China Sea that China's intentions for outer space should be gauged by their actions, including the continued development of ASATs, and not their propaganda."

Rick Fisher, senior fellow in Asian military affairs at the International Assessment and Strategy Center, said the Chinese military is seeking to "exercise denial and then dominance in low earth orbit (LEO) and then to extend control into the Earth-Moon system."

"Since the early 1990s China has developed four, possibly five, attack-capable space-combat systems," he said. "China may be the only country developing such variety of space weapons to include: ground-based and air-launched counter-space weapons; unmanned space combat and Earth-attack platforms; and dual-use manned platforms."

Harsh Vasani, a scholar at the Department of Geopolitics and International Relations at Manipal University in India, says China's ASAT program is closely linked to its anti-missile defense systems.

The difference between an ASAT missile and anti-missile interceptor is different software and control algorithms used by each missile to detect, track, and home in on either an orbiting satellite or a missile warhead.

"China has been making impressive headway in its ICBM program and in theory, these ICBMs can target U.S. intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) satellites," Vasani stated in the Diplomat in January.

"A brief survey of recent tests by Beijing confirms that China is rapidly improving its counter space program and making advances in its anti-satellite systems," he noted.

China destroyed a weather satellite in space in 2007,  causing tens of thousands of pieces of orbiting debris and sparking international condemnation.

Since 2007, China's ASAT missile tests have been against notional targets and in several cases were disguised as anti-missile interceptor tests, according to U.S. officials.

China tested a DN-2 in 2013 that traveled 18,600 miles in space where U.S. intelligence satellites are located.

The DN-3 was tested in October 2015, and again in December 2016. That DN-3 test was masked as an anti-missile interceptor test.

"The Chinese believe that the greatest threat to them comes from the United States," Vasani said.

"To counter the United States' conventional strength and gain strategic parity, Chinese strategists believe, Beijing will need to strike at the U.S. Achilles heel—Washington's over-reliance on satellites for [command, control, communications, computer, intelligence surveillance, and reconnaissance]. Beijing plans to exploit the vulnerable space infrastructure of the United States in the case of a war."
http://freebeacon.com/national-s ... -satellite-missile/
自强不息 发表于 2017-8-2 20:56 | 显示全部楼层
说是DN3反卫星实验,失败了。
ysz 发表于 2017-8-3 00:00 | 显示全部楼层
zhh894217 发表于 2017-8-2 18:38
China Carries Out Flight Test of Anti-Satellite Missile
DN-3 missile highlights growing space war ...

真的失败了吗?

视频中尾迹不同是因为失控吗?没有爆炸,也就是没有命中?

3431 发表于 2017-8-3 00:28 来自航空航天港手机版! | 显示全部楼层
zhh894217 发表于 2017-8-2 18:38
China Carries Out Flight Test of Anti-Satellite Missile
DN-3 missile highlights growing space war ...

什么意思?“拦截弹发射后失控?”是指姿态失控还是捕捉到目标
仇恨池 发表于 2017-8-3 00:35 来自航空航天港手机版! | 显示全部楼层
ysz 发表于 2017-8-3 00:00
真的失败了吗?

视频中尾迹不同是因为失控吗?没有爆炸,也就是没有命中?

你这种人少发言,动能拦截命中不命中地面目击都看不出来。版里关于前几年动能反导试验的帖子不少,多看看再发言,别发这幼稚的问题。
3431 发表于 2017-8-3 02:09 来自航空航天港手机版! | 显示全部楼层
仇恨池 发表于 2017-8-3 00:35
你这种人少发言,动能拦截命中不命中地面目击都看不出来。版里关于前几年动能反导试验的帖子不少,多看看 ...

也不一定 第一次以及之后的几次貌似都出现了天空大螺旋 应该是东风3 4这类液体靶弹剩下的燃料螺旋壮撒了出去 不过这样的事情也不是次次发生 也没法做定性判断
3431 发表于 2017-8-3 02:11 来自航空航天港手机版! | 显示全部楼层
仇恨池 发表于 2017-8-3 00:35
你这种人少发言,动能拦截命中不命中地面目击都看不出来。版里关于前几年动能反导试验的帖子不少,多看看 ...

搞个好点的天文望远镜(比如学校天文馆那种口径一米左右的)应该是能看出点细节的 当然 没等看出个所以然有关部门怕是就上门了
战神之翼 发表于 2017-8-3 22:48 | 显示全部楼层
就算失败了也没有什么大不了的,试验难道还有百分百成功吗,总结经验下次再来就是了。
3431 发表于 2017-8-3 23:33 来自航空航天港手机版! | 显示全部楼层
战神之翼 发表于 2017-8-3 22:48
就算失败了也没有什么大不了的,试验难道还有百分百成功吗,总结经验下次再来就是了。

情况还不确定……然而这种事情有没法分析
zhutou6 发表于 2017-8-5 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
zhh894217 发表于 2017-8-2 18:38
China Carries Out Flight Test of Anti-Satellite Missile
DN-3 missile highlights growing space war ...

Gertz现在已经完全成了美宣部的御用文人了,这厮把一切中国反导实验都说成是反卫星,目的其实就是抹黑中国的相关实验,并贬低中国的反导能力。他的东西没什么值得看的了,现在还是Henri K的东西比较有料。

http://www.eastpendulum.com/4-essais-de-missile-balistique-en-juillet
http://www.eastpendulum.com/quand-un-pilote-de-boeing-747-rencontre-un-missile-chinois-en-plein-vol
3431 发表于 2017-8-5 10:32 来自航空航天港手机版! | 显示全部楼层
zhutou6 发表于 2017-8-5 10:11
Gertz现在已经完全成了美宣部的御用文人了,这厮把一切中国反导实验都说成是反卫星,目的其实就是抹黑中 ...

这人不是号称泄密大王吗?现在大王换了?
自强不息 发表于 2017-8-5 22:12 | 显示全部楼层
zhutou6 发表于 2017-8-5 10:11
Gertz现在已经完全成了美宣部的御用文人了,这厮把一切中国反导实验都说成是反卫星,目的其实就是抹黑中 ...

我也觉得是红旗19,但是这个Henri K没说到底是成功还是失败。
zhutou6 发表于 2017-8-6 07:38 | 显示全部楼层
3431 发表于 2017-8-5 10:32
这人不是号称泄密大王吗?现在大王换了?

最近几次天朝反导实验都硬说成反卫星了,明显已经是屁股决定立场,跟铁血网的分析一样,没什么看头了。
3431 发表于 2017-8-6 10:14 来自航空航天港手机版! | 显示全部楼层
zhutou6 发表于 2017-8-6 07:38
最近几次天朝反导实验都硬说成反卫星了,明显已经是屁股决定立场,跟铁血网的分析一样,没什么看头了。

记得前几个反导帖子里谈的比较多(扯到了泄密以及情报问题) 里面好像提了句美国的情报人员希望在外交上把我国的反导说成反卫 以获取道德制高点
zhutou6 发表于 2017-8-6 10:33 | 显示全部楼层
3431 发表于 2017-8-6 10:14
记得前几个反导帖子里谈的比较多(扯到了泄密以及情报问题) 里面好像提了句美国的情报人员希望在外交上 ...

对的,这个是美方已经确立的战略方针,资料来源于wikileaks的泄露材料。在美方确立这个方针以后,美国官方渠道再也没有确认中国的反导实验,全部以反卫星定性之;以渲染反卫星为目的的宣传,实验“成功”与否并不重要,只要渲染中国继续反卫星,就达到了目的。

所以照着这个思路描绘的Gertz其人,其料已经没有什么可信度了。事实上他也确实很久没有什么技术细节的“爆料”了
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